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HIV is unrelated to AIDS
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HIV tests are faulty and never test for the presence of actual HIV.
HIV test cutoff points for the amount of antibodies you have "towards HIV" are different in different hospitals and areas around the world.
AIDS statistics are seriously skewed.
AZT is a drug that makes enormous amounts of money for drug companies and since they are so rich they have a large influence on what the people believe and they keep making people think that they should take AZT.
HIV is harmless. AIDS is not caused by HIV, but by unhealthy living.

Just do some research and see what you find if you really look into it I bet you'll agree with me.


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Good to know you have everything worked out hey

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um are u fucking retarded dude HIV is AIDs u stupid fuck my aunt has it dumbass maybe u should go to ur local health clinic and find out HIV is what starts AIDS and is  form of AIDS

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Quote: from DrewElizabeth at 8:52 am on April 5, 2008

um are u fucking retarded dude HIV is AIDs u stupid fuck my aunt has it dumbass maybe u should go to ur local health clinic and find out HIV is what starts AIDS and is form of AIDS

its true hivs ar from aids, my school just had a 2 hour assembly on weds talking about aids and hivs...it wuz gross, boring, and scary.

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Uh, proof? I don't believe you by the way.

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It's incredible the amount of people who read one article and then think they're an expert on a subject.

AIDS is very, very related to HIV. Human immunodeficiency virus is what weakens the body's immune system. AIDS stands for "acquired immunodeficiency syndrome". You "acquire" a weakened immune system because the previous virus (HIV) has weakened it. HIV is not harmless, as it is the weakening of the immune system which leads to the patient contracting AIDS and some opportunistic infections. AIDS is allowed to occur because of HIV, although unhealthy living does play a major part in just how quickly a patient's health declines.

So it appears it is you that needs to do more research.

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You're fucking retarded..

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great now cure it

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i'm sticking true to my facts until my mind is changed by something other than "but it is related! it causes it!"

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Quote: from thnku4thvenom at 4:54 pm on April 5, 2008

Quote: from DrewElizabeth at 8:52 am on April 5, 2008

um are u fucking retarded dude HIV is AIDs u stupid fuck my aunt has it dumbass maybe u should go to ur local health clinic and find out HIV is what starts AIDS and is  form of AIDS

its true hivs ar from aids, my school just had a 2 hour assembly on weds talking about aids and hivs...it wuz gross, boring, and scary.


'hivs ar from aids'

I think you should've listened more in that 2 hour assembly you had.


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HIV can be tested for using an ELISA test which can detect HIV antibodies in a diluted sample. The result of an ELISA test is a proportion number. A Western blot test is then used to determine whether the sample is HIV positive or negative.

It is true that there is a certain amount of controversy over the cut-off point between a positive and negative result. Simple HIV blood tests do have significant rate of false positives however far more expensive and precise tests are used to minimise this vastly.

AZT delays the progression of HIV and this is supported by very well-covered science. You can argue against the facts all you want but you have to ignore the numerous independent research that has been carried out on the drug.

Secondly, HIV is not "harmless". It can cause AIDS. I have no idea why you're arguing that it doesn't, but you're being disturbingly irresponsible by putting people's health at risk.

The people who argue that HIV does not cause AIDS cherry-pick and misrepresent largely outdated data.

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Quote: from guitarist451 at 4:59 pm on April 5, 2008

i'm sticking true to my facts until my mind is changed by something other than "but it is related! it causes it!"

You are the one who is challenging the accepted evidence so you are the one who must support your theory with evidence.

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Guys its pretty simple. you get HIV then your CD4 count (white blood cells) goes down, if you dont take the arv's this will happen faster. Then when your CD4 count goes so far down, we call it AIDS. From then on, every cold you get can snowball into something worse which can result in death.

The meds are to expensive I agree with that.

I all his because I work with HIV/AIDS on a daily basis

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They say that HIV attacks and kills the T-cells but it cannot kill nearly enough T-cells to do harm and the cells regenerate at an extremely faster rate than they are killed off.
I don't even need to argue I'm not 100% on this but I have seen nothing that really sways my stance on it so unless you present me with something I'm gonna believe what I believe.
If I test HIV positive I'm not going to worry about it.

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Quote: from guitarist451 at 12:11 pm on April 5, 2008

They say that HIV attacks and kills the T-cells but it cannot kill nearly enough T-cells to do harm and the cells regenerate at an extremely faster rate than they are killed off.
I don't even need to argue I'm not 100% on this but I have seen nothing that really sways my stance on it so unless you present me with something I'm gonna believe what I believe.
If I test HIV positive I'm not going to worry about it.

The gene pool thanks you for that. Your future sexual partners, on the other hand, will not.

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