I like existentialism, save for the fact that it seems to presuppose free will (and I would describe myself as a determinist, at the moment).

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Quote: from Blackadder at 7:54 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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I think, In honesty, Nihilism is actually unavoidable.

 
 firstly, its not clear that God can remove absurdity from our lives as it is not clear as to how: (a) God can confer meaning (read T.Nagel, 'the absurd') and (b), a finite & pointless individual can become meaningful via immortality [eg. an eternal afterlife]

 once we have decided that god cannot give our lives significance, then we must look elsewhere....extentialism does solve the problem simply because there is no objective standard....any life is a good one....hitler as good as ghandi, and so on.  

 so we are left with Nihilism, which can only be avoided by simply ignoring the problem....(that or, denial)  

 ..."okay, I know that looking after my family is as meaningless as any other activity....but fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway because I've decided this is important....in spite of the fact my reasons for deciding in such a manor are meaningless and flawed"

 

 
 

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you've confused the two.
nihilists believe there is no objective standard. hitler is as good as ghandi because there is no god, and thus no morals.

existentialists believe that one must make something themselves from the nothingness.

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I didn't confuse anything.

nihilism and existentialism are very similiar philosophies.   --- both agree there is no objective standard, the difference is that members of the latter are willing create/give meaning (which is a completly subjective process.)

...under nilihilism hitler is as good as ghandi becuase all criteria that could divide them are all meaningless.

....under exsistentialism hitler is as good as ghandi becuase I think so, the fact over 3 billion people disagree with me is totally irrelevant....

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The truth is what money can be made from a lie.

But rational thought says reality =/= dream

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Quote: from MemeCat at 7:07 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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Quote: from virgo is back at 10:05 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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if there isnt any reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator who do u think created u ??

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 Perhaps we evolved? Who knows.

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no one could proof the theory of evolution cuz its simply stupid

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Unfortunately there is alot more evidence that supports the theory of evolution, than its rival creationism. It seems with the evidence the argument is not so much 50:50 as it frequently made out to be. Perhaps if you werent so ignorant, you wouldnt dismiss it before you know anything about it.

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I cannot concieve of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or
has a will of the kind we experience in ourselves : Albert Einstei

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Quote: from virgo is back at 10:05 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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if there isnt any reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator who do u think created u ??

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My mommy.  

Why do you insist there must be a creator? Abiotic origins of life have been tested and deemed plausible. Whereas intelligent design cannot be tested and thereby cannot be proven and is therefor irrational.

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