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My class studied existentialism in AP English. Existentialism is a wonderful philosophy. Albert Camus' The Stranger sheds much light on this topic.

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Kaftka's The Trial also reflects his sense of existentialism. have you read it?

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you are the one the one who lies close to me,
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Quote: from virgo is back at 10:05 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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if there isnt any reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator who do u think created u ??

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Perhaps we evolved? Who knows.

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if there isnt any reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator who do u think created u ??

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My mommy.

Why do you insist there must be a creator? Abiotic origins of life have been tested and deemed plausible. Whereas intelligent design cannot be tested and thereby cannot be proven and is therefor irrational.

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I will rue the day when patriotism is defined as putting a
"Support the Troops" magnet on the back of your
SUV and keeping your mouth shut when the
government royally screws you over big time. Oh, wait....

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Quote: from MemeCat at 7:07 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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Quote: from virgo is back at 10:05 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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if there isnt any reasonable proof of the existence of a higher ruler or creator who do u think created u ??

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 Perhaps we evolved? Who knows.

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no one could proof the theory of evolution cuz its simply stupid

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lol...

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Depressing and unhappy are truths about our world. In a logical sense, humans are without purpose. As such, one will become devout in a religion, nihilistic, or existential and create meaning for themselves.

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you really don't know if we are without purpose.

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Quote: from MemeCat at 9:13 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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Depressing and unhappy are truths about our world. In a logical sense, humans are without purpose. As such, one will become devout in a religion, nihilistic, or existential and create meaning for themselves.

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you really don't know if we are without purpose.

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we don't know that we are, either.
Religion has been a major source of conflict, considering the Crusades.  Religion is something created by people who feel they must live for something. so in a way, they're creating a meaning for themselves.

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you are the one the one who lies close to me,
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Quote: from MemeCat at 9:13 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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Depressing and unhappy are truths about our world. In a logical sense, humans are without purpose. As such, one will become devout in a religion, nihilistic, or existential and create meaning for themselves.

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you really don't know if we are without purpose.

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It cannot be proven that humanity is imbued with purpose. If you can show me evidence of why we are here, I will be eternally grateful. Until then, I believe that we are not here for any specific reason and that humans must create a purpose for themselves.

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Quote: from reev at 10:14 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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Quote: from MemeCat at 9:13 pm on Mar. 27, 2008

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Depressing and unhappy are truths about our world. In a logical sense, humans are without purpose. As such, one will become devout in a religion, nihilistic, or existential and create meaning for themselves.

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 you really don't know if we are without purpose.

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It cannot be proven that humanity is imbued with purpose. If you can show me evidence of why we are here, I will be eternally grateful. Until then, I believe that we are not here for any specific reason and that humans must create a purpose for themselves.

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I never said that we are here for a purpose. I said that you can't say we have no purpose whatsoever. I'm not religious, but I do believe that our existence isn't just a random happening.

I don't understand why some people choose to believe that there is no purpose in the entire world, that we're just nothing. Why would someone want to believe something like that? It's sad, and hopeless. Does that not say something about one's own happiness?

Course, I'm not the happiest guy either and I believe what you don't, so i'm not too sure.

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firstly, its not clear that God can remove absurdity from our lives as it is not clear as to how: (a) God can confer meaning (read T.Nagel, 'the absurd') and (b), a finite & pointless individual can become meaningful via immortality [eg. an eternal afterlife]

once we have decided that god cannot give our lives significance, then we must look elsewhere....extentialism does solve the problem simply because there is no objective standard....any life is a good one....hitler as good as ghandi, and so on.

so we are left with Nihilism, which can only be avoided by simply ignoring the problem....(that or, denial)

..."okay, I know that looking after my family is as meaningless as any other activity....but fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway because I've decided this is important....in spite of the fact my reasons for deciding in such a manor are meaningless and flawed"

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I think, In honesty, Nihilism is actually unavoidable.  

 
firstly, its not clear that God can remove absurdity from our lives as it is not clear as to how: (a) God can confer meaning (read T.Nagel, 'the absurd') and (b), a finite & pointless individual can become meaningful via immortality [eg. an eternal afterlife]  

once we have decided that god cannot give our lives significance, then we must look elsewhere....extentialism does solve the problem simply because there is no objective standard....any life is a good one....hitler as good as ghandi, and so on.

so we are left with Nihilism, which can only be avoided by simply ignoring the problem....(that or, denial)

..."okay, I know that looking after my family is as meaningless as any other activity....but fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway because I've decided this is important....in spite of the fact my reasons for deciding in such a manor are meaningless and flawed"  

 

 

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you've confused the two.
nihilists believe there is no objective standard. hitler is as good as ghandi because there is no god, and thus no morals.

existentialists believe that one must make something themselves from the nothingness.

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you are the one the one who lies close to me,
whispers, "Hello, I miss you quite terribly."