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Monkeydj14752
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The only reason you should ever EVER get an abortion is if you get raped. Other than that it was your poor judgement so put it up for adoption of thats the only logical option.
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thepartyboy
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Who gives a fuck about a fetus? What about the billions of people suffereing from disease and starvation? I guess you all would rather spend years debating whether a fetus is a life while millions of full out sentient human beings die because they simply cannot get enough food. Americans never cease to amaze me.
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cierralove
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Quote: from thepartyboy at 12:28 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
So all you pro lifers, in the case of rape, or in the case of birth permantly damaging and/or killing the mother, how do you stand. If you think that a woman should be forced to give birth in the case of rape, you are incredibly incompassionate and I hope that one day you might know what that feels like. 
Rape is horrible and no woman ever deserves to go through that, but no child ever deserves to be murdered either... the baby did not commit the crime, his father did and to abort the child you are punishing him for the acts of his father. I feel extreme sympathy for anyone forced to endure a rape, but i do not condone killing an innocent. And as for fatalities for the mother, anywoman who is faced with the choice between her life or her child's is a very brave and strong person indeed. in that case and the case of EXTREME health complications for the child, the decision on what to do lies in the hands of the mother and father together. That is the ONLY time i would ever accept an abortion as a resonable choice. But, for the record, if i ever had to choose between my life or the life of my child, there would ultimately not be a choice at all, my child would live.
------- life's too short to live the same day twice, so make every one unique, memorable, and lasting.
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cierralove
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first,you really know nothing about me, so please do not assume that i dont understand the wieght of the situation... believe me when i tell you that i completely understand the psychological stress and mental damage that rape causes. and second, i wouldnt drop out, my parents wouldnt disown me, my life wouldnt be over, but most importantly niether would the life of my child. and third, i didnt say she had to raise the child. New born babies are wanted everyday. there are thousands of people that cannot have children who are urning to give their love to a child. and dont say "what about the millions of children already in foster care and unadopted" becuase the sad truth of the matter is that older children are not looked for as much as the new born babies that can be raised their entire lives thinking of only two people as their true parents.
------- life's too short to live the same day twice, so make every one unique, memorable, and lasting.
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( SusieQuestionu )
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Quote: from cierralove at 8:47 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from thepartyboy at 12:28 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
So all you pro lifers, in the case of rape, or in the case of birth permantly damaging and/or killing the mother, how do you stand. If you think that a woman should be forced to give birth in the case of rape, you are incredibly incompassionate and I hope that one day you might know what that feels like. 
Rape is horrible and no woman ever deserves to go through that, but no child ever deserves to be murdered either... the baby did not commit the crime, his father did and to abort the child you are punishing him for the acts of his father. I feel extreme sympathy for anyone forced to endure a rape, but i do not condone killing an innocent. And as for fatalities for the mother, anywoman who is faced with the choice between her life or her child's is a very brave and strong person indeed. in that case and the case of EXTREME health complications for the child, the decision on what to do lies in the hands of the mother and father together. That is the ONLY time i would ever accept an abortion as a resonable choice. But, for the record, if i ever had to choose between my life or the life of my child, there would ultimately not be a choice at all, my child would live. 
It's odd...it seems like the fetus seems to be more important than the mother. It doesn't seem to matter to you what kind of discomfort the mother may be going through. You call it a crime to murder an innocent being, but the mother had to endure quite a different kind of crime. I was raped, and even having to think about carrying a part of that man in my body makes me want to jump of a bridge!
------- Live. Love. Grow.
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cierralove
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Quote: from SusieQuestionu at 2:15 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from cierralove at 8:47 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from thepartyboy at 12:28 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
So all you pro lifers, in the case of rape, or in the case of birth permantly damaging and/or killing the mother, how do you stand. If you think that a woman should be forced to give birth in the case of rape, you are incredibly incompassionate and I hope that one day you might know what that feels like. 
Rape is horrible and no woman ever deserves to go through that, but no child ever deserves to be murdered either... the baby did not commit the crime, his father did and to abort the child you are punishing him for the acts of his father. I feel extreme sympathy for anyone forced to endure a rape, but i do not condone killing an innocent. And as for fatalities for the mother, anywoman who is faced with the choice between her life or her child's is a very brave and strong person indeed. in that case and the case of EXTREME health complications for the child, the decision on what to do lies in the hands of the mother and father together. That is the ONLY time i would ever accept an abortion as a resonable choice. But, for the record, if i ever had to choose between my life or the life of my child, there would ultimately not be a choice at all, my child would live. 
It's odd...it seems like the fetus seems to be more important than the mother. It doesn't seem to matter to you what kind of discomfort the mother may be going through. You call it a crime to murder an innocent being, but the mother had to endure quite a different kind of crime. I was raped, and even having to think about carrying a part of that man in my body makes me want to jump of a bridge! 
i am truely sorry that you had to go through that, but i still cant condone the murder of an innocent child... yes, rape is horrible and awful and any man who commits it should be painfully castrated and slowly killed, but like i said, the child didnt do anything wrong, and having an abortion is just as phsycologically scarring as rape....it feels you with a guilt for killing your baby that nothing can compare to.
------- life's too short to live the same day twice, so make every one unique, memorable, and lasting.
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rebelmozzerella
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Quote: from SusieQuestionu at 1:21 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from rebelmozzerella at 1:44 am on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from PewPew at 7:25 pm on Mar. 28, 2008
Quote: from rebelmozzerella at 4:57 pm on Mar. 28, 2008
If you have sex, you're ready for a baby. I will not debate this. If you are raped, its called emergency contraception. 
How do you define ready? 
You want a baby. 
Everyone that has sexx automatically wants a baby? So...why don't we just get rid of contraception methods? Since we're only sleeping with people to get pregnant. I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot of people do it purely for pleasure. They are not nearly ready to have a child. Others that would be ready, simply do NOT want a child. What would you rather want...somebody getting an abortion and maybe want a child later on in life. Then caring for the child...not just finacially, but also with love. As opposed to somebody who COUKD have a child, but doesn't want it...and will therefore have a small bit of dislike for said child for the rest of his or her life? I think the child would be better of dead! 
Not what I meant. If you take the commitment of sex, you've GOT to be ready for a kid.
------- Somethings don't spell out right in life. Fcuk.
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jonny5
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Quote: from rebelmozzerella at 5:41 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from SusieQuestionu at 1:21 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from rebelmozzerella at 1:44 am on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from PewPew at 7:25 pm on Mar. 28, 2008
Quote: from rebelmozzerella at 4:57 pm on Mar. 28, 2008
If you have sex, you're ready for a baby. I will not debate this. If you are raped, its called emergency contraception. 
How do you define ready? 
You want a baby. 
Everyone that has sexx automatically wants a baby? So...why don't we just get rid of contraception methods? Since we're only sleeping with people to get pregnant. I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot of people do it purely for pleasure. They are not nearly ready to have a child. Others that would be ready, simply do NOT want a child. What would you rather want...somebody getting an abortion and maybe want a child later on in life. Then caring for the child...not just finacially, but also with love. As opposed to somebody who COUKD have a child, but doesn't want it...and will therefore have a small bit of dislike for said child for the rest of his or her life? I think the child would be better of dead! 
Not what I meant. If you take the commitment of sex, you've GOT to be ready for a kid. 
That's the point of contraceptives. Of course you must be ready for the possibility, but surely not the general "ready."
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( SusieQuestionu )
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Quote: from cierralove at 10:39 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from SusieQuestionu at 2:15 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from cierralove at 8:47 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
Quote: from thepartyboy at 12:28 pm on Mar. 29, 2008
So all you pro lifers, in the case of rape, or in the case of birth permantly damaging and/or killing the mother, how do you stand. If you think that a woman should be forced to give birth in the case of rape, you are incredibly incompassionate and I hope that one day you might know what that feels like. 
Rape is horrible and no woman ever deserves to go through that, but no child ever deserves to be murdered either... the baby did not commit the crime, his father did and to abort the child you are punishing him for the acts of his father. I feel extreme sympathy for anyone forced to endure a rape, but i do not condone killing an innocent. And as for fatalities for the mother, anywoman who is faced with the choice between her life or her child's is a very brave and strong person indeed. in that case and the case of EXTREME health complications for the child, the decision on what to do lies in the hands of the mother and father together. That is the ONLY time i would ever accept an abortion as a resonable choice. But, for the record, if i ever had to choose between my life or the life of my child, there would ultimately not be a choice at all, my child would live. 
It's odd...it seems like the fetus seems to be more important than the mother. It doesn't seem to matter to you what kind of discomfort the mother may be going through. You call it a crime to murder an innocent being, but the mother had to endure quite a different kind of crime. I was raped, and even having to think about carrying a part of that man in my body makes me want to jump of a bridge! 
i am truely sorry that you had to go through that, but i still cant condone the murder of an innocent child... yes, rape is horrible and awful and any man who commits it should be painfully castrated and slowly killed, but like i said, the child didnt do anything wrong, and having an abortion is just as phsycologically scarring as rape....it feels you with a guilt for killing your baby that nothing can compare to. 
So...the child is more important than the mother?
------- Live. Love. Grow.
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