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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.

   It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.      

   Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


   

  I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


  Isn't it true?


 

 It has a beating heart... c'mon now.


Does it already have one at this point?

A cow has a beating heart, too. Not meaning to compare a fetus to a cow, but...many things have a beating heart.


Sorry. I meant a beating human heart... craniac.

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.

   It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.      

   Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


   

  I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


  Isn't it true?


 

 Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.
     

    It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.

    Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


   I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


   

  Isn't it true?


  Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


 

 How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?



Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.

    It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.        

    Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


     

    I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


   Isn't it true?


   

  Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


  How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


 

 So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?



Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

Technically? Yes.



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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.
       

     It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.

     Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


    I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


     

    Isn't it true?


   Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


   

  How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


  So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?


 
 Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

Technically? Yes.  


So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.

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So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.


Why do you assume that I want to kill everything that isn't a human being?

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 So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.


Why do you assume that I want to kill everything that isn't a human being?


I'm just using your own argument that you want to kill "fetuses who aren't human" so why not asscoiate this same strain of thought to the rest of society.

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.

      It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.          

      Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


       

     I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


    Isn't it true?


     

    Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


   How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


   

  So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?



  Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

 

 Technically? Yes.

 


So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.



Scientists say that people who are in Coma have conscience thought.
But if they're vegetables, yeah, we should just kill them. They're taking up beds that sick people could be using to get better.

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  So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.


 

 Why do you assume that I want to kill everything that isn't a human being?


I'm just using your own argument that you want to kill "fetuses who aren't human" so why not asscoiate this same strain of thought to the rest of society.


I *want* to kill them? No, I just believe that it is up to the mother to decide! Hence, "Pro-choice," and not, "Pro-death."

And I wouldn't associate the same strain of thought, because I can differentiate.

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.
         

      It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.

      Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


      I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


       

     Isn't it true?


    Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


     

    How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


   So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?


   
  Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

  Technically? Yes.    

 


 

 So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.



Scientists say that people who are in Coma have conscience thought.
But if they're vegetables, yeah, we should just kill them. They're taking up beds that sick people could be using to get better.

So they're life is less important?

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.

       It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.            

       Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


         

      I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


      Isn't it true?


       

     Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


    How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


     

    So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?



   Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

   

  Technically? Yes.

 


  So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.


 
 Scientists say that people who are in Coma have conscience thought.  
 But if they're vegetables, yeah, we should just kill them. They're taking up beds that sick people could be using to get better.

 

So they're life is less important?


Didn't want to say it, but...if there's no hope? Yes.

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.
           

        It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.

        Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


       I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


         

      Isn't it true?


      Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


       

     How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


    So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?


     
    Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

   Technically? Yes.      

   


   

  So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.



  Scientists say that people who are in Coma have conscience thought.
  But if they're vegetables, yeah, we should just kill them. They're taking up beds that sick people could be using to get better.

 So they're life is less important?


Didn't want to say it, but...if there's no hope? Yes.


Okay so what if the technology or restimulating and regrowing neurons is a success and all of the people who you killed off now had a chance to live.

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Okay so what if the technology or restimulating and regrowing neurons is a success and all of the people who you killed off now had a chance to live.

Then that is really good news for the future lives that will be saved. At the moment, nothing could be done.

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Uh. It's a human being. An innocent human being. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world. An innocent human being who did not decide to be brought into this world and who should not be killed because his or her idiotic mother just wanted to get screwed and was irresponsible.

       It's not a human being yet, it's a fetus.            

       Not all the people that get pregnant and don't want the baby are "idiotic mothers." Some have very valid excuses.


         

      I'm so sick of hearing that excuse. "It's not a human being it's a fetus." Come up with something new.


      Isn't it true?


       

     Again subjectivity is all that surrounds the "answers" to this type of question. I say it is a human, you say it isn't.


    How do you define a human? I always thought the definition had something to do with concious thinking.


     

    So you're saying that people in hospitals who have been injured or who are sick and have no concious thinking are not human?



   Do you mean people who are in Coma, or who are vegetables?

   

  Technically? Yes.

 


  So there's no reason to keep them around either. Let's just kill them. I'm sure their families won't mind.


 
 Scientists say that people who are in Coma have conscience thought.  
 But if they're vegetables, yeah, we should just kill them. They're taking up beds that sick people could be using to get better.

 

So they're life is less important?



What life? A vegetable won't get better. Ther're on life support, they're being fed through a tube. There is no chance for them.

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 Okay so what if the technology or restimulating and regrowing neurons is a success and all of the people who you killed off now had a chance to live.

Then that is really good news for the future lives that will be saved. At the moment, nothing could be done.


What if this technology is discovered tomorrow and you killed averyone today. You would have no regrets?

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