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The Samsoniteman
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That's disturbingly reactionary. It's well established that our pumping of CO2 and particles into the atmosphere is causing it to heat up. That's not a matter of debate, it's scientific fact. Therefore, considering the terrible implications of warming, we should be doing everything in our power to decrease the amount of CO2 and other pollutants we are releasing into the atmosphere and decrease the amount of CO2 and pollutants to a stable level. Even if global warming caused by human activity is bullshit this is still the best course of action in terms of helping the environment. Making rough guesses from graphs like those isn't helpful because there are a huge number of contributing factors that are completely ignored by a simple "time vs. temp" graph.
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norock
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1) it is obvious that CO2 levels will rise. And will never return to any level that anyone see's as "normal" the human population on earth is now 6 billion people, in 1900 it was just over 1.6 billion, in 1950: 2.5 billion. Isn't it obvious that with the growth of the human population, their ever expanding needs, and the simple release of CO2 in our breathe that the levels will have risen substantially? Of course, CO2 being released from our factories and cars is effecting our atmosphere, but what do YOU propose. what are the measures that YOU are proposing we take? more filters? stricter restrictions? they will not help. Sure we should do it anyway to help the environment that we live in, but as far as doing it to recompense... we have already damaged the atmosphere during the ID, it will never go back to the way it was. My point is that we are not nearing some catastrophe, just that the AVERAGE LEVEL has risen and that we are simply still feeling the nature based fluctuations in climate. Nature is a powerful force and is not one to underestimate.
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3:03 pm on Mar. 26, 2008 | Joined Dec. 2006 | 338 Days Active Join to learn more about norock New York, United States | Straight Male | 4175 Posts | 7652 Points
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lostluvr86
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This IS a free country you know. Let people beleive what THEY want to beleive Don't try to shove your global warming crap down her throat.
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norock
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Quote: from lostluvr86 at 6:45 pm on Mar. 26, 2008
This IS a free country you know. Let people beleive what THEY want to beleive Don't try to shove your global warming crap down her throat. 
lol, though i don't believe it is anything to be overly concerned about stopping... If it is happening, it is happening, its not like religion where one can choose to believe it or not, if its true, there is no arguing. knowledge is not a virus, but it should be knowledge in truth, and with the most evidence possible to support its validity.
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3:50 pm on Mar. 26, 2008 | Joined Dec. 2006 | 338 Days Active Join to learn more about norock New York, United States | Straight Male | 4175 Posts | 7652 Points
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nigeltheoutlaw
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Quote: from norock at 3:03 pm on Mar. 26, 2008
1) it is obvious that CO2 levels will rise. And will never return to any level that anyone see's as "normal" the human population on earth is now 6 billion people, in 1900 it was just over 1.6 billion, in 1950: 2.5 billion. Isn't it obvious that with the growth of the human population, their ever expanding needs, and the simple release of CO2 in our breathe that the levels will have risen substantially? Of course, CO2 being released from our factories and cars is effecting our atmosphere, but what do YOU propose. what are the measures that YOU are proposing we take? more filters? stricter restrictions? they will not help. Sure we should do it anyway to help the environment that we live in, but as far as doing it to recompense... we have already damaged the atmosphere during the ID, it will never go back to the way it was. My point is that we are not nearing some catastrophe, just that the AVERAGE LEVEL has risen and that we are simply still feeling the nature based fluctuations in climate. Nature is a powerful force and is not one to underestimate. 
The CO2 created by humans is as insubsantial as the methane created by plants compared to what we are pouring out. And our CO2 used to mostly be processed by palnts, but we are deforesting so much and developing so much that we are causing nearly irreversible damage.
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