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 Replies: 202 — Last Post April 5 1:55pm by ShadowMasterD
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Forever Angel
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Quote: from Aimforthehead at 7:03 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
TOTAL energy = zero means TOTAL energy = none. 
In other words, energy's negatives and positives will cancel itself out back to zero.
1+(-1)=0. That doesn't mean 1 and -1 have no value.
That is NET energy, not TOTAL energy. If I have a bunch of positive energy and an equal amount of negative energy, I still have energy. If I have ZERO energy, then I have NO energy.
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Three Marleans
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I believe that there is a universal singularity that generates matter, time and energy via the processes explained in science. It's not a concious being like God.
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That time was like never, and like always.
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Quote: from Three Marleans at 7:13 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
I believe that there is a universal singularity that generates matter, time and energy via the processes explained in science. It's not a concious being like God.
How does science explain the 'generation' of matter, time, and energy? I don't think I've read about that.
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:12 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
Quote: from Aimforthehead at 7:03 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
TOTAL energy = zero means TOTAL energy = none.
In other words, energy's negatives and positives will cancel itself out back to zero.
1+(-1)=0. That doesn't mean 1 and -1 have no value.
That is NET energy, not TOTAL energy. If I have a bunch of positive energy and an equal amount of negative energy, I still have energy. If I have ZERO energy, then I have NO energy.
I don't think I understand what you are getting at. If you get a bill for 20 dollars, and you have a 20 dollar coupon, you still have a bill, but it cancels out to 0 dollars is all. It is impossible for the universe to have any positive or negative total energy as everything equals itself out. The total energy must be 0.
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Forever Angel
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Wrong analogy. Try this... I have two chains connected to a device that measures both pulling force and direction of movement. On the other end of each of those chains I have a team of horses. These teams begin to pull in opposite directions. If the power of these teams are equal, the measurement for direction will be zero, does that mean that the pulling force will also be zero? Direction is equivalent to NET energy. Pulling force will be equivalent to TOTAL energy. Just because they are equal does not cancel the energy that is present.
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:16 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
How does science explain the 'generation' of matter, time, and energy? I don't think I've read about that.
The gravitational singularity that has yet to be solved. Look up string theory and singularities if you even care.
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That time was like never, and like always.
So we go there, where nothing is waiting;
we find everything waiting there.
www.myspace.com/penultimatecontempt
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Three Marleans
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Singularity (as far as I have read) is the point that contains the infinite amount of matter and energy that adds to the constantly expanding universe. It was the point of the Big Bang. As I said, it hasn't been solved mathematically yet and maybe when it is the relation to energy conservation could be explained completely. As for the 'caustic remark', I figured you were trying to insinuate that a being was involved by jumping on the idea that singularity forces generate matter.
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That time was like never, and like always.
So we go there, where nothing is waiting;
we find everything waiting there.
www.myspace.com/penultimatecontempt
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Quote: from Moridin at 1:47 pm on Mar. 25, 2008
Let's say that the Big Bang Theory is true, then the mass and inertia from the explosion would logically carry several possible scenarios afterward: 1. Continual Movement in a positive direction until gravity begins to become increasingly useless, which causes all life to essentially scatter aimlessly throughout the Universe. 2. Continual Movement until eventually the inertia ceases, which causes the Universe to essentially stop maintaining it's mass regardless afterward. 3. Continual Movement until the inertia ceases and the mass of the Universe retracts due to the gravitational pull afterward? If this theory is true, then it'd be theoretically possible that there have been literally millions of Universes created prior to ours and the impact of this collapse will lead to the creation of millions more, etc. etc. And they say Science is not at all about the guess work or simply leaving situations to chance?
The Big Bang Theory is true, it has a massive amount of EVIDENCE in its favor. http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309064066&page=2 A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses. Here are some of the misconceptions you made: 1) Big Bang is not an explanatory model for the origin of the universe, but for its development.
2) The Big Bang was not an explosion, it was a rapid expansion.
3) The fact that we do not know what will happen in the far, far future does not know we do not know what happened in the past. The Big Bang explains much, much data, such as the entropy of the universe, H/He ratio, cosmic background radiation and so on.
You do realize that you've stated, here are the following examples that honestly cannot make sense for me: 1) If the Big Bang explains the development of the Universe, you do realize that even Science guesses for what and how the universe began? 2) Rapid expansion = Explosion; or creation of something from nothing? Even if you explain how something advances, you still have to account for the beginning. 3) Since when have you convinced yourself that we've answered fully within the past prior to the advancement of our current universe, which is collection of galaxies throughout an unknown expansion of Dark Matter? Never claimed to be a scientist, but doesn't there seem to be more questions from your proven facts?
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God creates out of nothing. Wonderful you say.
Yes, to be sure, but he does what is still more wonderful:
he makes saints out of sinners.
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Quote: from Innuendo Girl at 11:22 am on Mar. 25, 2008
Science + God
Intelligence was necessary to create what we study with science.
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