Now, an economist has given a great basis to this theory, stating that it probably helps things.

If you arent going to buy it, but get a free taste for it, and LOVE it, then buy it, thats a sale they wouldnt have had.

Even if you dont buy it, but you tell your friends how amazing it is, and THEY buy it, theres some sales they wouldnt have had.

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Furthermore, those of us that dont buy it as a political protest against the lobbyist groups (RIAA/MPAA in particular) still create great amounts of hype, and we often go to live shows, and see movies in the theater, even if we dont buy a physical copy.

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Downloading is legal in Canada... just sayin'...

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Actually, thats a common misconception.

Just because Canada doesnt take a ton of pressure from the RIAA, they have CRIA, which in some ways is harder than the RIAA. CRIA has gone as far as to get hosts to pull users and servers off-line to prevent their content from getting pirated.

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Few people download and then go buy it. And when they tell their friends, the friends don't buy it, they just download it themselves. Also, I know more people who won't pay to see a movie, but wait for it to appear on torrents and then download them and watch it in the comfort of their own home.

Sure, some people live as the author suggests, but I highly doubt that there are enough people doing such to counter those who don't.

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Your summary (who ever reads TFA these days?) makes the whole thing sound so ideal, and misses the actual scope of the situation

Few people download and then go buy it. And when they tell their friends, the friends don't buy it, they just download it themselves. Also, I know more people who won't pay to see a movie, but wait for it to appear on torrents and then download them and watch it in the comfort of their own home.

Sure, some people live as the author suggests, but I highly doubt that there are enough people doing such to counter those who don't.

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I beg to differ.

Have you ever sat a few hours in a private trackers IRC? I hear all the time on the PowerScene IRC people asking "Oh, is this any good". I would say that 75% of the time, there is at least one reply thats something like "Yeah, I just saw that in theaters last night" or "Hell ya! I just bought that album, its amazing!".

Not to mention, most people agree music is over priced. No one wants to get something that will sound shitty.

When someone downloads it, and likes it, its not all that rare for them to buy it later on.

In fact, I have a HUGE list of things to buy, that I downloaded now, and will pay for later, because I liked them.

Sure, it will take a little bit of time, but considering the artists hardly see any of that money anyways, its not a big deal.

There might not be enough for it to be completely dollar for dollar even, but I think its enough to compensate for alot of loss. Not to mention, most of this stuff wouldnt get bought anyways.

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I steal, and its kool cuz everyone else does it; and i'm willing to take the risk of having a corporation sue me for $200,000.

I steal, and its kool cuz everyone else does it; and i'm willing to take the risk of having a corporation sue me for $200,000.

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Its a matter of STEALING intellectual property without paying for it, you stupid piece of shit. That's the whole fucking argument, not which other way piracy can help promote the music. Goddamn you're fucking dumb. Shut the fuck up. At least I'm honest enough with myself to recognize both sides of the argument, without distorting the issue for the sake of seeking self-delight. Of course RIAA or whatever shit will be knocking down on your front door, dumbass; its a matter of revenue. Corporations give a shit about profit. Big whoop, faggot.

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Actually, its not about stealing the intellectual property, at least not to the artist, who deserves the money.

The only people that REALLY care if you are "stealing" it are the lobbyist groups. When you "steal" it, you are tapping into their pocket.

You will still see the artist in concert (the $8 that it cost me to go to the Kingston Falls show the other day will be MORE than what they get off of BOTH of their CDs that are out).

In reality, the artist could care less if a few thousand hundred thousand people are pirating it, as long as they are fans.

The more fans, the more people that go to a concert. The more people that go to a concert, the more money they actually see.

Keep in mind that they get about $4 off a physical CD sale, and about $2.50 off of a digital distributed album (about $0.30 a song).

Besides, in my eyes, the RIAA has no right to sue people. The artists PAY them to become part, they give them royalties, and all for what? So the RIAA can sue people up the ass and make MORE money. Most of which has not been paid back to the artist AT ALL (a certain percent is supposed to get back to them, its still low though).

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The music industry is a BUSINESS. Contracts with the artist have LEGAL merit. Whatever fucking money the cd earns, the INDUSTRY is free to take 98% of it, if they truly wish to. Why can't people just fucking learn to be honest with themselves; it's really fucking annoying.

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Say it with me, dumbshit: I steal, and its kool cuz everyone else does it; and i'm willing to take the risk of having a corporation sue me for $200,000.

I steal, and its kool cuz everyone else does it; and i'm willing to take the risk of having a corporation sue me for $200,000.

I steal, and its kool cuz everyone else does it; and i'm willing to take the risk of having a corporation sue me for $200,000.

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Actually, I dont steal, and I dont think infringing on IP is cool.

Im simply peacefully expressing how much I hate the greediness of the RIAA, by not giving them my money.

In fact, since I stopped buying music, I go to concerts almost every week, which actually HELP the artists a hell of alot more than buying one CD.

I cant stand people who actually do it just for free music. They dont understand that they are the reason the RIAA is able to continue operations.

I spend MORE on concerts than I would have on CDs, and the artists actually see that money.

I know in full what Im doing. Its not a matter of me wanting free music.

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Then again, perhaps I keep stumbling into niches as well. Giant, random, diverse niches...

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You may have found a niche or two, but from the people I've talked to, they often brag about their large (pirated) music collection. They continue on to say about how they absolutely love [ band(s)/artist(s) ] and have all their songs. When the subject of owning anything by them, the usual response is "Why would I buy it? I already have it".

Then again, perhaps I keep stumbling into niches as well. Giant, random, diverse niches...

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Meh, I suppose.

I would say most of the people I know that I know are cool about it, because Ive pretty much brainwashed them.

Its really not that hard. I mean, you just buy it as you get the money, and you go to shows every chance you get.

That ensures the artists get paid.

Like I said, people who do it for free music just piss me off. I have a reason behind why I dont buy music. I would go as far as to call it a political statement.

Hence why I just dont encourage people to download music on here when they ask "H0wz d0 1 u$e dem t0rr3ntz th1ngz".

If you dont understand what you are doing, then you shouldnt do it. If you understand that you are stealing MOSTLY from the RIAA, and you are willing to pay them back if they catch you, then by all means, do it.

That is really what responsible P2P is all about.

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