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I once saw a man shoot himself
Replies: 20Last Post June 21, 2008 9:02am by planetTK
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When I was 9 my neighbor shot and killed himself on the front steps. I was outside at the time and walked around to the front yard to see what the noise was. I though it was a firecracker, but it was a small caliber pistol. The wife already called 911 and I went and told my parents he was bleeding on the sidewalk with a bullet hole in his head.

It's not that death really bothers me; I would like to get into mortuary science and have been an assistant at a funeral home. I'm in college now. He shot himself because he was in poor health from drinking and smoking his whole life. He didn't look healthy either, like he had cancer. I'm not using this as the only reason why I don't drink. I run track at the college level. Drinking isn't healthy and fat slows you down. I have no desire to be a drunken fool. Because I don't drink, college society tends to call me an outcast. I've also known about a dozen people either killed or been killed in alcohol incidents.

I know many people choose not to drink. It's just not many people have been in this situation as seeing a human being actually dying. When I think about drunks, I think about this incident. I'm not obsessed about it, it's just a connection I make. Just because I choose not to drink, I still hang out with friends that drink. I'm often their designated driver and keep them from getting themselves in too much trouble. Has this incident shaped my beliefs and response to drinking?


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im sorry?

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It may have. Something inside you might have triggered

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I believe it totally has, for the better.

I would like to enlighten you of a quote, (actually it's a shirt):

"I Get Piss Ass Drunk, How Do You Handle Stress?"



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Some day you are going to have to let them know the consequences of their drinking.  I just had an incident happen to a family because their father was drinking.  I won't say what it was, but it is horrible that it happened.

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It has possibly had some influence on your decisions. Most of our childhood experiences shape us to be the people we are as adults.

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That incident will probably affect several aspects of your life to som extent or another. But not drinking is a fairly common choice and if it is the right one for you, well, hey! It's you living your life and no-one else gets to tell you how to do it.

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quite possibly. i know that up until less than a year ago, i was very against drinking myself (then some shit happened...and well ya), and thus was in your situation. there was a solid reason, an event that had occurred in my life to cause me to have this belief. it's probably the same for you (but a different reason)

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I have lost friends to alcohol as well, keep doing U!!!  The only thing I can say is that alcohol is not worth "fearing", if U can handle yourself like an adult and drink responsibly during social events then good, drink up.  My advice would be to use moderation, start with wines and/or wine coolers, dont go str8 for the hard stuff.  but If U choose not to drink at all more power to U, I wish I would have been that way lol...

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Eh, from what I've heard suicide is painless.  Apparently it even brings on many changes.

I'd bet that I could take or leave it if I pleased.

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Because you don't drink the college society tends to view you as an outcast?

Bullshit.

I think it's YOU who views yourself as an outcast.

Also, not everyone that drinks is a "drunken fool" - I hate how highschool girls give us drinkers a bad rep.

Get over yourself and how you don't drink and just go be social. Only you can make yourself an "incast."

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Quote: from JeremyM at 5:41 am on April 18, 2008

Because you don't drink the college society tends to view you as an outcast?

Bullshit.

I think it's YOU who views yourself as an outcast.

Also, not everyone that drinks is a "drunken fool" - I hate how highschool girls give us drinkers a bad rep.

Get over yourself and how you don't drink and just go be social. Only you can make yourself an "incast."


Um...yeah that's kind of societies' view...where have you been? Not everyone's a drunken fool, but a large percentage is. You have no business telling me to "get over myself" because I would highly douby you've ever witnessed in person a man actually end his own life.


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My post was not regarding that at all. I am sorry you "witnessed him end his own life." When you clearly state you heard a noise and ran around to the other side of the house to see what it was. So in other words, you did not witness the actual happenings of the suicide. You witnessed the aftermath.

Anyways, my point was, you not drinking and claiming society, as a whole, views you as an outcast. Sure, people pass judgement - I agree there. However, you automatically assume you're viewed as an outcast because you don't drink. That's called being sheltered and having insecurities about yourself.  

Insecurities meaning, you don't drink so therefore you think everyone will view you as an outcast, or not want to hang out with you.

I do have a right to tell you to get over yourself because from what I gathered from your original post, is that just because you viewed someone after committing suicide, you don't drink so you think that you're going to be viewed differently than others.

In depth? Yes. But true? Yes.

Post edited at 6:50 am on April 18, 2008 by JeremyM

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Quote: from JeremyM at 6:50 am on April 18, 2008

My post was not regarding that at all. I am sorry you "witnessed him end his own life." When you clearly state you heard a noise and ran around to the other side of the house to see what it was. So in other words, you did not witness the actual happenings of the suicide. You witnessed the aftermath.

Anyways, my point was, you not drinking  and claiming society, as a whole, views you as an outcast. Sure, people pass judgement - I agree there. However, you automatically assume you're viewed as an outcast because you don't drink. That's called being sheltered and having insecurities about yourself.

Insecurities meaning, you don't drink so therefore you think everyone will view you as an outcast, or not want to hang out with you.

I do have a right to tell you to get over yourself because from what I gathered from your original post, is that just because you viewed someone after committing suicide, you don't drink so you think that you're going to be viewed differently than others.

In depth? Yes. But true? Yes.


You seem to be twisting my words. What is there to get over? You tell me what you mean by that since you keep saying it. It's not liking I'm dwelling on the fact "I'm an awkward, social recluse that noone wants to hang out with since I don't drink." That's what you're making it sound like. In fact, my original post doen't really have to do with the way other people see me; this was more on and innerpersonal thought than anything. That's why I was wondering if this incident has shaped my beliefs.

And even if I didn't see him actually shoot himself; I was a little kid looking at a grown man with a bullet hole in his head and blood flowing over the sidewalk. You couldn't even imagine that when you were 9 so once again you have no business telling me to get over it.


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How do you know what I've seen and what I haven't seen when I was 9 or at any other age?

I apologize, I guess, for "twisting" your words but that was my first impression. Maybe to avoid that in the future, be more specific?

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