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to carry or not to carry guns
Replies: 76Last Post Mar. 31 8:45pm by El Burrito
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allow guns for protection 33 48%
keep strict gun control 35 51%
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guns don't kill people, people kill people.
if it wasn't a gun, it'd be something else.

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Quote: from superxcellent at 4:10 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

guns don't kill people, people kill people.
if it wasn't a gun, it'd be something else.

guns make it almost effortless to kill another human being, while something like self-defence takes effort to learn and execute and therefore would be more limited in usage

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I agree that guns should be allowed, but not in the hands of a hormonal teenager...That screams disaster!

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Quote: from Skip at 1:10 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

Quote: from identitycrisis at 4:09 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

Well i believe that people will use common sense with guns, for you people who feel safe you wouldnt buy one of course. I am talking about people who need guns for protection, police cant be everywhere all the time.
if you want protection go take a course in self-defence

kung fu wont protect you from a criminal who is experienced in mugging people, neither will pepper spray, it will just piss him off


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Quote: from zigily at 1:10 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

Look at statistics on gun crime in countries where having a gun is illegal and I'll think you'll find there are a lot less deaths caused by gun crime. In England regular people are not allowed to own guns and I've never heared of someone shooting up their school like you guys have.

for one thing, europe has a diff gov,t diff people, and they do not have our crime, you are not as diversed and are not drug infested like the united states so comparing the u.s. with another country about guns is not relevant


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the problem here is that people want guns for this supposed "protection" that they get from holding, but meanwhile this also gives criminals a huge advantage because the gun is a tool that they can use in every situation that they face.  If criminals didnt have guns, they would kill less people you really cant argue with that.

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ppl in my school (in uk) carry guns and knifes  shootin happens where i live

btw skip sefl defense dnt work well against guns and u have 2 be able 2 stay unbeleivably calm in ANY situation 2 be able 2 peform the simplest of most self defense thechniques


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Quote: from exp at 1:13 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

Quote: from zigily at 1:10 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

Look at statistics on gun crime in countries where having a gun is illegal and I'll think you'll find there are a lot less deaths caused by gun crime. In England regular people are not allowed to own guns and I've never heared of someone shooting up their school like you guys have.

for one thing, europe has a diff gov,t diff people, and they do not have our crime, you are not as diversed and are not drug infested like the united states so comparing the u.s. with another country about guns is not relevant


Maybe America should be looking at why countries such as England have lower crime rates. England is fairly diverse


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what im saying is outlaw guns all around and then there would be more room for improvement in other self-defense methods, and more safer ones at that

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Quote: from Skip at 1:14 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

the problem here is that people want guns for this supposed "protection" that they get from holding, but meanwhile this also gives criminals a huge advantage because the gun is a tool that they can use in every situation that they face. If criminals didnt have guns, they would kill less people you really cant argue with that.

allowing guns to be legal, criminals still wouldnt be issued one, but there is this little thing called the black market, they can get guns anyway, this is why people need protection for themselves

factories arent going to stop making guns, it is just not going to happen good try though


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make guns illegal = less guns out in society either way = less effortless killing at the pull of a trigger

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Quote: from Skip at 1:19 pm on Mar. 16, 2008

make guns illegal = less guns out in society either way = less effortless killing at the pull of a trigger
=Only criminals having guns=more crime=more killings=less chance for our defense

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Guns are necessary for a Democratic government, so just in case the government get out of hand, the citizens can fight back.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -Thomas Jefferson

I am a strong supporter of the second amendment. It must suck for those so called democratic countries that banned all guns. What would happen if the government got out of hand? What would you do?

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the thing is you gotta be pretty loaded to have a gun anyway. you know how much they cost from 300 to 600 if they legal. so yeah if you poor the only guns you can get are te ones you get on the street. so the only ppl who can afford guns are rich fucks and gangbangers.  

so I say let them kill each other and then when they all dead we get their money

Post edited at 8:54 pm on Mar. 16, 2008 by jakelong

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Areas where concealed carry is allowed seem to have lower crime rates than those without. It may not be the case in all situations but it seems to be the case now. Criminals fear an armed public.

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