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God wouldn't prove himself to you? You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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I meant to all of humanity.  If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times?  Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it?  Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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God wouldn't prove himself to you?  You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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I meant to all of humanity. If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times? Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it? Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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He does prove himself.  All the tsunamis.  All the hurricanes.  Remember Katrina?  He most def sent a message.  And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test."  God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He does it frequently and on this own time.  And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period.  The fact that it happened long ago means nothing.  We are in a certain time frame now.  We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war.  You choose your side.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you? You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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 I meant to all of humanity.  If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times?  Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it?  Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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He does prove himself. All the tsunamis. All the hurricanes. Remember Katrina? He most def sent a message. And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test." God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. He does it frequently and on this own time. And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period. The fact that it happened long ago means nothing. We are in a certain time frame now. We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war. You choose your side.

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Hmm. . .  you know, I used to believe in all this god crap, but not anymore.  Right now, I agree w/ aphex twin.  The reason I like the subaudible is because there is no specific supreme being, just something.  As for the time period thing, why doesn't he do something that can't solved otherwise by science.  If he's so great, he should be able to muster up something without possibly getting us mere humans confused with him and science.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you?  You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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 I meant to all of humanity.  If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times?  Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it?  Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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He does prove himself.  All the tsunamis.  All the hurricanes.  Remember Katrina?  He most def sent a message.  And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test."  God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He does it frequently and on this own time.  And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period.  The fact that it happened long ago means nothing.  We are in a certain time frame now.  We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war.  You choose your side.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you? You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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  I meant to all of humanity. If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times? Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it? Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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 He does prove himself. All the tsunamis. All the hurricanes. Remember Katrina? He most def sent a message. And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test." God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. He does it frequently and on this own time. And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period. The fact that it happened long ago means nothing. We are in a certain time frame now. We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war. You choose your side.

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A natural disaster proves nothing except how credulous humans are.

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Agreed.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you?  You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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  I meant to all of humanity. If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times? Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it? Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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 He does prove himself.  All the tsunamis.  All the hurricanes.  Remember Katrina?  He most def sent a message.  And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test."  God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He does it frequently and on this own time.  And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period.  The fact that it happened long ago means nothing.  We are in a certain time frame now.  We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war.  You choose your side.

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Hmm. . . you know, I used to believe in all this god crap, but not anymore. Right now, I agree w/ aphex twin. The reason I like the subaudible is because there is no specific supreme being, just something. As for the time period thing, why doesn't he do something that can't solved otherwise by science. If he's so great, he should be able to muster up something without possibly getting us mere humans confused with him and science.

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He will do something that doesn't have to be proven.  Its in revelations.  I'm not saying you have to believe this or anything.  Theres a place for everyone.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you? You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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  I meant to all of humanity.  If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times?  Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it?  Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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  He does prove himself. All the tsunamis. All the hurricanes. Remember Katrina? He most def sent a message. And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test." God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. He does it frequently and on this own time. And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period. The fact that it happened long ago means nothing. We are in a certain time frame now. We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war. You choose your side.

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 Hmm. . .  you know, I used to believe in all this god crap, but not anymore.  Right now, I agree w/ aphex twin.  The reason I like the subaudible is because there is no specific supreme being, just something.  As for the time period thing, why doesn't he do something that can't solved otherwise by science.  If he's so great, he should be able to muster up something without possibly getting us mere humans confused with him and science.

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He will do something that doesn't have to be proven. Its in revelations. I'm not saying you have to believe this or anything. Theres a place for everyone.

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yeah, but what is the point of doing something that can't be proven when it's too late?  That's called being a major dick.  Wait until everyone (non-christian/jew) is screwed then prove yourself.  Real mature.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you? You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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  I meant to all of humanity. If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times? Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it? Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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 He does prove himself. All the tsunamis. All the hurricanes. Remember Katrina? He most def sent a message. And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test." God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. He does it frequently and on this own time. And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period. The fact that it happened long ago means nothing. We are in a certain time frame now. We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war. You choose your side.

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A natural disaster proves nothing except how credulous humans are.

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we might just be credulous.  But to us, the christians, its a sign.  If we believe that God created everything and will end everything, then we are going to naturally believe he controls what happens on this earth, such as disasters.  Notice I dont say "natural."  They are for a reason.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you?  You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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   I meant to all of humanity. If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times? Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it? Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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  He does prove himself.  All the tsunamis.  All the hurricanes.  Remember Katrina?  He most def sent a message.  And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test."  God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He does it frequently and on this own time.  And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period.  The fact that it happened long ago means nothing.  We are in a certain time frame now.  We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war.  You choose your side.

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  Hmm. . . you know, I used to believe in all this god crap, but not anymore. Right now, I agree w/ aphex twin. The reason I like the subaudible is because there is no specific supreme being, just something. As for the time period thing, why doesn't he do something that can't solved otherwise by science. If he's so great, he should be able to muster up something without possibly getting us mere humans confused with him and science.

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 He will do something that doesn't have to be proven.  Its in revelations.  I'm not saying you have to believe this or anything.  Theres a place for everyone.

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yeah, but what is the point of doing something that can't be proven when it's too late? That's called being a major dick. Wait until everyone (non-christian/jew) is screwed then prove yourself. Real mature.

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so now God is immature?  Obviously,you're basing your opinions on life situations.  God works behind the scenes.  Everyone has their time.  Maybe a number of bad things have happened to you, but who doesn't?  If thats not the case, then what are you basing your opinions off of?

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God wouldn't prove himself to you?  You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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  I meant to all of humanity.  If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times?  Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it?  Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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  He does prove himself.  All the tsunamis.  All the hurricanes.  Remember Katrina?  He most def sent a message.  And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test."  God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He does it frequently and on this own time.  And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period.  The fact that it happened long ago means nothing.  We are in a certain time frame now.  We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war.  You choose your side.

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 A natural disaster proves nothing except how credulous humans are.  
 

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we might just be credulous. But to us, the christians, its a sign. If we believe that God created everything and will end everything, then we are going to naturally believe he controls what happens on this earth, such as disasters. Notice I dont say "natural." They are for a reason.

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Another question, why end it?  Why should he end everything that we worked so hard on to build, invent, and create?  That just isn't fair, it's like teasing a cat with a dead mouse just out of its reach.  If he ends everything, then what was the point in making us?  A game?  Humor?  Boredom?

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God wouldn't prove himself to you? You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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   I meant to all of humanity. If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times? Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it? Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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  He does prove himself. All the tsunamis. All the hurricanes. Remember Katrina? He most def sent a message. And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test." God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. He does it frequently and on this own time. And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period. The fact that it happened long ago means nothing. We are in a certain time frame now. We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war. You choose your side.

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  A natural disaster proves nothing except how credulous humans are.
 

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 we might just be credulous.  But to us, the christians, its a sign.  If we believe that God created everything and will end everything, then we are going to naturally believe he controls what happens on this earth, such as disasters.  Notice I dont say "natural."  They are for a reason.

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Another question, why end it? Why should he end everything that we worked so hard on to build, invent, and create? That just isn't fair, it's like teasing a cat with a dead mouse just out of its reach. If he ends everything, then what was the point in making us? A game? Humor? Boredom?

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you're right he doesn't have to end it.  The way were living our lives, it will end anyway.  But I think of religion and this world as a story book.  You have your beginning and your body.  Now all thats left is the ending.  How about that?  If we believe God created the earth and has a purpose, then naturally its going to have an ending and a purpose with it.  Its not going to be boredom.  humor.

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God wouldn't prove himself to you?  You might be in for a rude awakening very soon.

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    I meant to all of humanity.  If he cares about us so much, wouldn't he prove himself with all of his power, like back in biblical times?  Set a pile of logs that have been drenched in, what was it, 20 gallons of water on fire when someone prayed for it?  Isn't it funny how all of this happens way back when there is no way to prove it, and it never happens now?

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   He does prove himself.  All the tsunamis.  All the hurricanes.  Remember Katrina?  He most def sent a message.  And plus it says, "Do not put the Lord, your God, to the test."  God doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.  He does it frequently and on this own time.  And plus, all that destruction happened in a certain time period.  The fact that it happened long ago means nothing.  We are in a certain time frame now.  We're just awaiting the arrival of Jesus and the last great war.  You choose your side.

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  A natural disaster proves nothing except how credulous humans are.    
 

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  we might just be credulous. But to us, the christians, its a sign. If we believe that God created everything and will end everything, then we are going to naturally believe he controls what happens on this earth, such as disasters. Notice I dont say "natural." They are for a reason.

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 Another question, why end it?  Why should he end everything that we worked so hard on to build, invent, and create?  That just isn't fair, it's like teasing a cat with a dead mouse just out of its reach.  If he ends everything, then what was the point in making us?  A game?  Humor?  Boredom?

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you're right he doesn't have to end it. The way were living our lives, it will end anyway. But I think of religion and this world as a story book. You have your beginning and your body. Now all thats left is the ending. How about that? If we believe God created the earth and has a purpose, then naturally its going to have an ending and a purpose with it. Its not going to be boredom. humor.

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Okay, I see your point.  But, you didn't answer my main question.  Why did he create us if he just wants to end us?   If we end, then any point in creating us is automatically terminated.  It was just a waste of his and our time.  

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