While I agree with the concept, and for the most part it does it well, it's stupid on 2 accounts.

1.) I tried under my real account. And a mod reported back saying I didn't get in because I only scored a 10/20 on the Multiple Choice (despite the fact when I hit submit, it said I scored well enough on the MC for my written response to be considered  -- so in theory, he shouldnt have rejected me on the basis of the MC if I qualified)

Anyway, instead of waiting 5 days, I created another account, this one I'm using now. And took it again right away. Probably improved on MC by 1 or 2 points. And wrote an even better response -- saying why I should be accepted and to look past potential problems with the MC.

And as you can see, I got in. So yes, you can cheat the system somewhat by avoiding the time delay. But the mods are subjective, when they shouldn't be, If 10/20 on the MC is sufficient, then don't deny me access because you yourself disagree with the current level of adaptedness of the MC! Accepted is accepted, qualified is qualified. The ACLU states that there's not levels of qualification, you're either qualified or your not. And on my first try on my real account, I was qualified! UGH

2.) Some of the multiple choice is irrelevant. The grammar questions, and related things are fine.

But knowing the computer code to make text bold or colorful?
Matching up a puzzle piece?
BOLLOCKS

Stuff like there is irrelevant to education. And those are what I messed up on. I know I did well on the grammar part.

Whether I can visually see what 2 pieces of a puzzle matches is irrelevant to my maturity, intellect, or anything else for that matter.

Even the math problems, while that does show you if you're educated and smart, it only does in respect ot MATH

This is a writing forum. Some people arn't good at math. And whether they;re good or not has no relevance to their capabilities of interacting on section.

The free response is the best way to judge. And it's smart that it is weighted much more than the MC. And the MC is good too, but needs to be revised and improved.

The test overall is great idea, and works to a great extent. But needs to be improved

Think of all those smart, thought provoking people you are rejecting because they have trouble with math, or because they're not good with visual problems. Hardly fair, is it?
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What's more, and this is just semantics, change the title of the test and section. "Intellectual" is insulting for those who didn't pass the test. The test, while good for selection, doesn't show a person's intellect or level of education.

As I said, I failed the first time -- and I'm one of the smartest people on here: 20 years old, 2nd year in University, a University ranked top 50 in the US, and im doing well with a B average. I don't need that test to confirm I'm smart, and when I failed the first time, I laughed so hard cos clearly I'm smart.

Why "Intellect" test, why not "Selection" test. And label the board "Debating" section. Seems more appropriate, no?

So simply because YOU did not pass the test the first time makes it stupid and inaccurate of what service it is providing. Perhaps you just aren't as clever as you think you are and all the fancy proof of getting into a well know place of higher education is just smoke and mirrors.

I have a friend who got into the top ranking University in Canada.
I have a higher IQ then him and generally more street smarts.

Just because you go to a certain place of education does not mean you are automatically smarter than other people.

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if you're not getting answers; ask better questions

I didn't think of the test as something difficult. I mainly just ranted about them judging our intellect arbitrarily and sarcastically called the person reading it as the, "Grand Inquisitor of Knowledge." Honourable title, if you ask me.

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So simply because YOU did not pass the test the first time makes it stupid and inaccurate of what service it is providing. Perhaps you just aren't as clever as you think you are and all the fancy proof of getting into a well know place of higher education is just smoke and mirrors.

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You took the words right out of my mouth. I found that pretty much every single question on that test was common sense. For those that are not what you may consider common sense, you can make an educated guess based on the choices for answers that you are given.

And I guess you mustnt be as smart as you think if you can fail something so silly.

I got that question right, cause it is common sense. But still...

This post thread isn't about me. And since I'm complaining about a question I got RIGHT shows that.

At the end of the day, I know I'm smart. And I know that my future after college and law school is promising. I will be successful. And I don't need a 20min useless, subjective, and irrelevant forum quiz to show me that.

Georgetown and Tufts are the same quality. George Washington and Bucknell are the same quality. Lehigh and John Hokpins are the same quality. And so on.

There's well over 2,500 colleges in the US. If you're in the top 50 schools, you're in the top 2%!!!! You, my friend, are kidding yourself if you think rankings matter to the extent you're alluding too.....What's more, you're claiming that the 98% of other students who arnt fortuanate to attend a top 50 school are stupid. Which is just wrong.

Any way, if rankings were based purely on academics (instead of alumni, endowments, and all that other nonsense) my school would easily be in the top 20 or 30. But all the other crap brings it down.

It doesn't matter what school you go to.. Rather, it matters what you do when you get there.

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It doesn't matter what school you go to.. Rather, it matters what you do when you get there.

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anything from a 3.0 and up is considered good in my books....

No employer is going to turn me down because I graduated with a B average. So I think I'm fine....

But hey, if you want to continue to be pompous and self righteous, then go ahead. See if that kind of attitude gets you far in life.

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I don't know when a B become a bad grade....

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anything from a 3.0 and up is considered good in my books....

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No employer is going to turn me down because I graduated with a B average. So I think I'm fine....

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But hey, if you want to continue to be pompous and self righteous, then go ahead. See if that kind of attitude gets you far in life.

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If I wrote the test, the pass rate would drop like an rock.

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"I give the probability of this working at zero" - Dan DeMatteo

I have nothing against that test but I do believe I lost points on the Democracy party question or something like that

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A man is not justified by the works of the Law,
but through faith in Christ Jesus. [Rom 3:22; 9:30]

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As I said, I failed the first time -- and I'm one of the smartest people on here: 20 years old, 2nd year in University, a University ranked top 50 in the US, and im doing well with a B average.

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Are you seriously coming in here to brag about your B average? A B? As in a 3.0 GPA?

Post edited at 7:34 am on Feb. 13, 2008 by TheOtherHorseman

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"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

But I still do think I'm one of the smartest people on here.

I'm not the best in science, and I'm only decent in math. But I rate highly my writing and analytical skills -- hence I'm majoring in Political Science, and not Physics or Calculus....

And I'm sorry, majority of the multiple choices on the test were simply irrelevant. Whether you got them right or wrong doesn't make a difference -- some of those questions simply have nothing to do with testing if you're qualified to post on this section.