Quote: from Blackadder at 1:54 pm on Oct. 29, 2007
Fuck Plato, Fuck Socrates, Fuck Aristotle.
I'm so glad my degree has so little to do with them
My, but that's an intelligent position to take.
Have you ever read anything by any of them?
No....and I really don't intend to.
If I wish to understand the euthrphro dilemma I need not consult plato.
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How can you pass judgment on something you've never read?
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How can you pass judgment on something you've never read?
with ease.
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Quote: from Blackadder at 2:25 pm on Oct. 29, 2007
How can you pass judgment on something you've never read?
with ease.
Not a very intellectually honest position to take, to judge something as worthless without reading it.
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I find that philosophy is a very interesting topic. I have recently began studying Philosophy academically and it is interesting to compare Aristotle and Plato's theories on concepts of the soul and of the Forms in particular.
If I get time I intend to read many more works to increase my knowledge but at this time, lack of time does not allow me to do so.
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How can you pass judgment on something you've never read?
with ease.
Not a very intellectually honest position to take, to judge something as worthless without reading it.
If I were to place a gaint shit on your dinner plate would you eat it?
"eww! no way! it would taste horrible!"
"how do you know unless you try?"
Life is simply too short to be fucking arround trying to get an educated opinion on everything. --you shouldn't need to eat shit to know it tastes bad.
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I have read chunks of the Iliad and more or less the entirety of the Odyssey. they were interesting, I suppose, but I can't really say I enjoyed them. But I feel the same way about Homer as I do about Nathaniel Hawthorne for the most part. They are entirely different authors with extremely long-winded descriptions for something that could be said in several words.
I have also read a good portion of the works of Aristotle. However, when I took it out at the time, I did not understand most of it, and therefore have vowed to not read it again for a long while. It just didn't seem all that interesting and was in fact quite hard to read. I like books that I can understand and wrap my mind around, but that's just me, I'm not exactly a literary snob.
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Beowulf isn't a novel; it's an epic poem. And it is painful to read.
Dante's Inferno is also quite painful to read.
I heard that they're coming out with a Beowulf movie. I won't lie, I'm a little excited.
The movie seems to screw with the plot a bit, but that's just judging from the trailers. I didn't recall Beowulf ever macking on Mommy Grendel.
Also, Blackadder, there is a great deal of difference between learning about the foundations of much of modern philosophy and eating something that is obviously bad for you.
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the foundations of Philosophy are way before Plato's time -- they probably sprout from the moment humans gained a consciousness -- the ability to think is philosophy's only pre-requisite.
and also, what on earth made you think eating shit was bad for you?
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Quote: from Blackadder at 9:37 am on Oct. 30, 2007
the foundations of Philosophy are way before Plato's time -- they probably sprout from the moment humans gained a consciousness -- the ability to think is philosophy's only pre-requisite.
And yet, if you do not study Plato, you don't really have a base to look at where much of modern philosophy stems from, nor do you really have a base to argue philosophy, particularly Platonic philosophy. It leads to a stunting of sorts.
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Teenagers reading philosophical treaties is generally a bad idea. Much better to read books about original philosophical literature rather than the other way around.
I haven't read anything originally written by any philosopher unless I was forced to.
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Teenagers reading philosophical treaties is generally a bad idea. Much better to read books about original philosophical literature rather than the other way around.
I haven't read anything originally written by any philosopher unless I was forced to.
That's a shame. The Republic (particularly the tenth book) and The Symposium are actually quite good, independent of their philosophical content.
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In terms of enjoyment, I might, but not before I've finished the almighty list.
Only 19% so far :(
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I'm going to have to keep that link handy; I'm constantly looking for new reading material, and even though I'm pretty sure I've read about half of that list, there's still another half. Thanks for providing that!
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