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One nation, under God.
Replies: 73Last Post July 4 8:50am by Forever Angel
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What are your opinions on the "One nation, under God" line in the pledge of allegiance?

I personally think it should be changed. America is not only a Christian country, and with the pledge of allegiance mandatory in many schools I'd consider this forcing personal religious beliefs on others.

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What  are you  talking about?

They changed laws  long ago, they don't do it anymore.


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I believe it should be changed, only because in public schools, or at least the ones I've attended, relious beliefs were strictly kept out of the system.

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I thought they took that part out...?

The "Under God" part, that is. So it should just be "One nation, indivisible...etc."

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Quote: from BrownSugaBaby at 3:06 pm on June 27, 2008

I thought they took that part out...?

Oh, did they?

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Quote: from BrownSugaBaby at 7:06 am on June 27, 2008

I thought they took that part out...?

I think it depends on the state...because I know here they still use that phrase.

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What religious beliefs are being forced on others?

"... that this nation, under God, ..."

Abraham Lincoln
Gettysburg Address
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863


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THEY DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.


Here in  California  a teacher or school can be sued if they force a child to do it.
No school is permitted to do that anymore.


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Quote: from bluerosedangel at 8:08 am on June 27, 2008

Quote: from BrownSugaBaby at 7:06 am on June 27, 2008

I thought they took that part out...?

I think it depends on the state...because I know here they still use that phrase.

They still use it here too. Well, at least, at my school they do. But I heard you didn't have to say that part anymore...

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It should be changed, but honestly....I can care less.

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OMG  you can  sue them!

Sue them!!!!


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I stopped saying the pledge in 7th grade, in my county you're suppose to say it or at least stand respectfully but a district court ruled that it was an unconstitutional law. One of my teachers "pat" me on the back to get me to stand up, yelling at how disrespectful and unpatriotic I am.   Short history:

...the addition of the words "under God," by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1954, during the "religious revival" of the 1950s. It is unclear where the idea was initiated, but the bill introduced in 1953 proposing the alteration didn't take off until formally endorsed by Rev. George M. Docherty, the pastor of the church attended by Eisenhower. After signing the bill on June 14, 1954, President Eisenhower said, "From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural schoolhouse, the dedication of our Nation and our people to the Almighty."

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Quote: from xoxo1234 at 8:02 am on June 27, 2008

What are your opinions on the "One nation, under God" line in the pledge of allegiance?

I personally think it should be changed. America is not only a Christian country, and with the pledge of allegiance mandatory in many schools I'd consider this forcing personal religious beliefs on others.


Just to correct you here: saying the Pledge of Allegiance hasn't been mandatory since, I believe, the 1960s.

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I won't swear to it but I think they tried taking to the supreme court (students refusing to say it because they were atheist) and the supreme court wouldn't even judge on it.

At least in my school you HAD to say the whole pledge including under god, not under the gods, not saying who whole pledge but not under god, the whole thing or instant detention.

Post edited at 7:16 am on June 27, 2008 by HarrySunderland

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They should take it out, as it wasn't in their in the first place. Silly theists.

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