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To all christian believers
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Quote: from Molbi at 5:55 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from penguinsrule at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
he is willing and able but he lets us make our own choices. as a whole, MOST of our troubles are caused by ourselves as people...(excluding natural disasters and whatnot, but that is not evil exactly...)

if he is willing and able to destroy evil then why not why would he let his 'children' live lives of missery because of the decisions of others? and why wouldnt he make it so we wanted to make the correct dessisions? why should we have to combat our basic human nature to look after ourseelves first and formost

Maybe you should read a bible.

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Quote: from Molbi at 2:55 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from penguinsrule at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
he is willing and able but he lets us make our own choices. as a whole, MOST of our troubles are caused by ourselves as people...(excluding natural disasters and whatnot, but that is not evil exactly...)

if he is willing and able to destroy evil then why not why would he let his 'children' live lives of missery because of the decisions of others? and why wouldnt he make it so we wanted to make the correct dessisions? why should we have to combat our basic human nature to look after ourseelves first and formost

you'll have to ask him. but in my opinion, evil gives good people chances to be helpful and compassionate towards others. If there was no sufferring then compassion couldn't really exist, and a huge part of faith is knowing that he is there and will get you through your troubles in life. i also believe that our temporary troubles make us stronger for greater battles in our lives...*shrugs*. just my opinion

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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.  

 That definatly has validity.  

 I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?

why would a christian god with the omnipotency to be able to destroy evil allow people to be miserable

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Quote: from Molbi at 3:02 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.  

  That definatly has validity.  

  I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?

why would a christian god with the omnipotency to be able to destroy evil allow people to be miserable

If one does not know evil, then one cannot know good

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Quote: from Molbi at 4:55 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from penguinsrule at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
he is willing and able but he lets us make our own choices. as a whole, MOST of our troubles are caused by ourselves as people...(excluding natural disasters and whatnot, but that is not evil exactly...)

if he is willing and able to destroy evil then why not why would he let his 'children' live lives of missery because of the decisions of others? and why wouldnt he make it so we wanted to make the correct dessisions? why should we have to combat our basic human nature to look after ourseelves first and formost

You would rather be a robot with no ability to choose how you want to live your own life? And what is it that you consider "evil"?

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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 3:02 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from Molbi at 3:02 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.    

   That definatly has validity.    

   I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?
 

 why would a christian god with the omnipotency to be able to destroy evil allow people to be miserable

If one does not know evil, then one cannot know good

so its worth suffering to know good

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Quote: from Molbi at 3:05 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 3:02 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from Molbi at 3:02 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.    

    That definatly has validity.    

    I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?
 

  why would a christian god with the omnipotency to be able to destroy evil allow people to be miserable

If one does not know evil, then one cannot know good

so its worth suffering to know good

Yes.

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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.  

 That definatly has validity.  

 I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?

there wouldnt be a point.

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Quote: from JackieisBlue at 3:06 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.  

  That definatly has validity.  

  I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?

there wouldnt be a point.

so god created evil so there was a point to his existance?

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Quote: from Molbi at 3:08 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 3:06 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:59 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue at 2:51 pm on July 1, 2008
Wow.  

  That definatly has validity.  

  I have kinda had the same philosophy. If god is anti evil, then why does it exist?

If evil didnt exist, what would be the point of him existing?
 

 there wouldnt be a point.

so god created evil so there was a point to his existance?

*sigh* IF there is a god, he wouldnt have created evil. That would be the humans fault.

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*sigh* IF there is a god, he wouldnt have created evil. That would be the humans fault.

god created humans, humans create evil

by proxy god creates evil

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Quote: from Molbi at 3:31 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue
 *sigh* IF there is a god, he wouldnt have created evil. That would be the humans fault.

god created humans, humans create evil

by proxy god creates evil

Touche.

=)

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Quote: from Molbi at 5:31 pm on July 1, 2008
Quote: from JackieisBlue
 *sigh* IF there is a god, he wouldnt have created evil. That would be the humans fault.

god created humans, humans create evil

by proxy god creates evil

I'll ask again, what is your definition of evil?

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sorry to ignore you i was on an arguing high, i gues evil is the personal gain of one party which results in the loss of another party  OR its when one party is un affected and another suffers
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Quote: from Molbi at 6:31 pm on July 1, 2008
sorry to ignore you i was on an arguing high, i gues evil is the personal gain of one party which results in the loss of another party  OR its when one party is un affected and another suffers
Can you give me an example of those situations that would be evil?

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