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Quote: from Anonymous at 7:12 am on July 1, 2008

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suicide is still one of the most pathetic, selfish acts and just an easy way out for people.  
 people need ot learn how to become optimistic about things, even out of the worst situations and not drabbing on about it.

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Lol, you say that as if it's so easy for everyone.

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i know it wouldnt be easy,
but when you think of it, it is the easier option.
beats having to face up and accept everything doesnt ti?

Maybe you should try this.....

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Maybe you should try this.....

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in order for someone to do that.
they have to be willing to want help.
some people just keep thinking that what they are doing is a better option.

i applaud anyone that can take down their wall, and get help with these things.

He quit cutting because his friends couldn't take him having scars, they couldn't take him doing it.

But its really horrible, him having panic attacks every day at random times. Being depressed All the time. Hes got fired from every job he had because of it. He can't concentrate on school.

I can understand how it would seem silly to cut, but just because you don't understand it doesn't mean its not real, whatever reason someone cuts is obviously not silly to them.

Some people just can't get better. Their sick, with depression and its just like any disease. Its painful physically and mentally.

You wanting someone to live with these things, and you you call them selfish..

I know in reality it's selfish. BUT those people honestly feel as though everyone will be BETTER without them around. So in their minds, it's for the greater good and will benefit everyone.

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Quote: from aGIRLunknown at 7:19 am on July 1, 2008

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 Maybe you should try this.....

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in order for someone to do that.
they have to be willing to want help.
some people just keep thinking that what they are doing is a better option.

i applaud anyone that can take down their wall, and get help with these things.

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Thats when you keep at them ask them to talk about their feelings. Keep them from cutting. Belive me if I had someone to talk to who I trusted I would not be cutting myself. My mother see's my scares and yet she ignors them. All I want is for someone to ask me how I am coping with things.

Also incase people are wondering CUTTERS DON'T ALWAYS DO IT FOR ATTENTION some do and its wrong.

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i understand and can see how people do these things for different reasons.
aka trauma in their life, trying to get control of their emotions and feelings.

but thier are better ways to handle these things, cutting/suicide isnt the only option, even when people think it is.

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it feels good n everything n cutters dfofnt delude themselvesf- thefy fknowf they shfoufldnt b doing it n most dont want 2 but it is very addictive

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honestly, you have no idea what you're talking about. you can't understand why people have done these things because you've never done them. i'm not saying 'go cut right now' i'm just saying since you haven't had the experience you have no right as to judge what other people do. some people have cut once because they want some relief but then they can't stop, it can become an addiction, so every time they're upset they cut. just like everytime my mom is stressed she smokes a ciggarette. as for suicide, most people probably don't think they're doing everyone else a 'favor', they just don't want to feel pain anymore. yes, it can be selfish, but some people are just hurting that much inside and can't stand it.

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im not judging the perons, im judging thier behaviour.
bad things happen to everyone, petty and major.
i've had major things happen in my life, which im not going to talk about, but ive felt as if there wqas nothing i could do, but i accepted it, talked about it, etc.
not once did i feel an urge to go rip a razor thorough my thigh.
its takes abit, but its possible not to hurt anymore.
cuttting solves nothing, only causes more problems.

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Quote: from lmc11591 at 7:23 am on July 1, 2008

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honestly, you have no idea what you're talking about. you can't understand why people have done these things because you've never done them. i'm not saying 'go cut right now' i'm just saying since you haven't had the experience you have no right as to judge what other people do. some people have cut once because they want some relief but then they can't stop, it can become an addiction, so every time they're upset they cut. just like everytime my mom is stressed she smokes a ciggarette. as for suicide, most people probably don't think they're doing everyone else a 'favor', they just don't want to feel pain anymore. yes, it can be selfish, but some people are just hurting that much inside and can't stand it.

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im not judging the perons, im judging thier behaviour.
bad things happen to everyone, petty and major.
i've had major things happen in my life, which im not going to talk about, but ive felt as if there wqas nothing i could do, but i accepted it, talked about it, etc.
not once did i feel an urge to go rip a razor thorough my thigh.
its takes abit, but its possible not to hurt anymore.
cuttting solves nothing, only causes more problems.

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that is you. not everyone can be perfect and just get over it by talking about it. some people don't have someone to talk to. i used to attempt suicide once every now and then, and i didn't have anyone to talk to about how i felt. not even my parents. it's a hard thing to overcome.

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Quote: from Anonymous at 8:30 am on July 1, 2008

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Quote: from lmc11591 at 7:23 am on July 1, 2008

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honestly, you have no idea what you're talking about. you can't understand why people have done these things because you've never done them. i'm not saying 'go cut right now' i'm just saying since you haven't had the experience you have no right as to judge what other people do. some people have cut once because they want some relief but then they can't stop, it can become an addiction, so every time they're upset they cut. just like everytime my mom is stressed she smokes a ciggarette. as for suicide, most people probably don't think they're doing everyone else a 'favor', they just don't want to feel pain anymore. yes, it can be selfish, but some people are just hurting that much inside and can't stand it.

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 im not judging the perons, im judging thier behaviour.  
 bad things happen to everyone, petty and major.  
 i've had major things happen in my life, which im not going to talk about, but ive felt as if there wqas nothing i could do, but i accepted it, talked about it, etc.  
 not once did i feel an urge to go rip a razor thorough my thigh.  
 its takes abit, but its possible not to hurt anymore.  
 cuttting solves nothing, only causes more problems.

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that is you. not everyone can be perfect and just get over it by talking about it. some people don't have someone to talk to. i used to attempt suicide once every now and then, and i didn't have anyone to talk to about how i felt. not even my parents. it's a hard thing to overcome.

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i never said that was perfect, nor did i say i talked about it and magically it all dissapeared.
i am talking about a long process.
6 to 7 year process.
i know getting over these things would be hard, but once again, people have to much doubt in themselves and just think they wont ever get over it.

maybe its not your parents you need talking to, or ven some you are close to.
it helps to confide in a completely random person, even if they dont say anything back, or 'help' in anyway, its always a good step in overcoming something :)

But the only reason I didn't cut myself or commit suicide is because I knew it was going to get better, no matter how impossible it may have seemed. I grabbed on to that hope and I told myself it would get better until I actually believed it.

And I understand that life feels overwhelming at times, I understand what if feels like to feel like you're worthless, and I understand what it feels like to feel like no one cares and that you're hopelessly alone; but you have to pick yourself up, no matter how much you don't want to.  

I know that cutting yourself makes you feel in control of your body; but there's better and healthier ways of doing it. Now I don't exactly understand HOW cutting makes you feel better (in the physiological sense), but there are better ways of feeling in control.

I personally used writing, because it gets you feelings out on paper and stops you from going into denial because you're admitting your problems to someone, something. I also would write stories, because YOU can make ANYTHING you want happen. YOU are in absolute control.

If anyone needs someone to talk to, someone to listen, PM me.

Post edited at 7:58 am on July 1, 2008 by StopandStare

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I understand that people who commit suicide are in a lot of pain. I understand that to them it's all too much to bear. Why? Because I went through a rough patch called my life.

But the only reason I didn't cut myself or commit suicide is because I knew it was going to get better, no matter how impossible it may have seemed. I grabbed on to that hope and I told myself it would get better until I actually believed it.

And I understand that life feels overwhelming at times, I understand what if feels like to feel like you're worthless, and I understand what it feels like to feel like no one cares and that you're hopelessly alone; but you have to pick yourself up, no matter how much you don't want to.  

I know that cutting yourself makes you feel in control of your body; but there's better and healthier ways of doing it. Now I don't exactly understand HOW cutting makes you feel better (in the physiological sense), but there are better ways of feeling in control.

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yes!
thats a point im am trying to get across, YOU can get better without cutting and there is a mass of other ways you can go about dealing with your emotions and what not.

congrats that you got through that rough patch :)

but i should totally just be optimistic about my future