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DC gun ban revoked
Replies: 33Last Post June 26, 2008 2:05pm by marshmellowman
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/26/scotus.guns/index.html

A blow to those gun control idiots.

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Damn, gun control is a good idea, IMO.

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We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.

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Duh... It wasn't working.. .Crime Capital of the Nation I believe?

"Holy shit, no one has Guns... WTF are they going to do about mine?"

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:59 pm on June 26, 2008

We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.
That's not my argument.

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Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:00 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:59 pm on June 26, 2008

We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.
That's not my argument.

Then what is?

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What is your argument. I like to hear all angles. I don't think any of them defeat mine.

Regulating Gun Ownership is necessary, but an all out ban isn't an efficient practice. I don't expect that there weren't any Shootings under this Ban. I'm sure there would have been more cases of Incidents where a Licensed Owner injured/killed another individual (Or even himself XD). But I bet that now there will be less incidents in which a licensed/illegal owner injured/killed another individual. All together decrease in statistics.

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i say fuck the statistics

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Quote: from Narfle the Garthok at 4:01 pm on June 26, 2008

Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:00 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:59 pm on June 26, 2008

We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.
That's not my argument.

Then what is?


The fact that besides rifles for hunting and whatnot, guns have no real purpose for the general population. The laws should be a lot stricter and an indepth background check should be carried out if they want one. They'd have to renew the permit every 6months or so.

But the simpler thing to do is just not allow gun possession. It will be out of reach to the mentall ill people that might commit crimes and those hard ass dudes that have guns will always have them anyway. Allowing the general population to have guns doesn't solve the problem.

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In Soviet Russia, Statistics fuck YOU!!!

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Quote: from marshmellowman at 11:13 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from Narfle the Garthok at 4:01 pm on June 26, 2008

Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:00 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:59 pm on June 26, 2008

We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.
That's not my argument.

 

 Then what is?


The fact that besides rifles for hunting and whatnot, guns have no real purpose for the general population. The laws should be a lot stricter and an indepth background check should be carried out if they want one. They'd have to renew the permit every 6months or so.

But the simpler thing to do is just not allow gun possession. It will be out of reach to the mentall ill people that might commit crimes and those hard ass dudes that have guns will always have them anyway. Allowing the general population to have guns doesn't solve the problem.


defense, protecting oneself from the govt's potential tyranny, the fact that you dont NEED a reason, etc. and mentally ill people are statistically not more violent than mentally 'sane' people, even though statistics dont really matter when deciding personal freedoms

"Let's simply ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it!"

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Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:13 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from Narfle the Garthok at 4:01 pm on June 26, 2008

Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:00 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:59 pm on June 26, 2008

We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.
That's not my argument.

 

 Then what is?


The fact that besides rifles for hunting and whatnot, guns have no real purpose for the general population. The laws should be a lot stricter and an indepth background check should be carried out if they want one. They'd have to renew the permit every 6months or so.

But the simpler thing to do is just not allow gun possession. It will be out of reach to the mentall ill people that might commit crimes and those hard ass dudes that have guns will always have them anyway. Allowing the general population to have guns doesn't solve the problem.


If I had a knife, and you didn't have I knife. I'd be less scared of you, and if I wanted something, I'd know I can get it easier. However, if you had a gun, I'd say fuck that.

It's the uncertainty of who has a gun and who doesn't that will make a difference.

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Quote: from Kokasion at 4:16 pm on June 26, 2008

Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:13 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from Narfle the Garthok at 4:01 pm on June 26, 2008

Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:00 am on June 26, 2008

Quote: from prisoner of hss at 3:59 pm on June 26, 2008

We must ban everyone from having something because a few idiots will abuse it.
That's not my argument.

  Then what is?


The fact that besides rifles for hunting and whatnot, guns have no real purpose for the general population. The laws should be a lot stricter and an indepth background check should be carried out if they want one. They'd have to renew the permit every 6months or so.  

 But the simpler thing to do is just not allow gun possession. It will be out of reach to the mentall ill people that might commit crimes and those hard ass dudes that have guns will always have them anyway. Allowing the general population to have guns doesn't solve the problem.


If I had a knife, and you didn't have I knife. I'd be less scared of you, and if I wanted something, I'd know I can get it easier. However, if you had a gun, I'd say fuck that.

It's the uncertainty of who has a gun and who doesn't that will make a difference.


But statistics prove it doesn't make a difference. People aren't scared of everyone because they may have a gun. Arming everyone won't solve the problem, it will just make it worse.

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Quote: from prisoner of hss at 4:15 pm on June 26, 2008

defense, protecting oneself from the govt's potential tyranny, the fact that you dont NEED a reason, etc. and mentally ill people are statistically not more violent than mentally 'sane' people, even though statistics dont really matter when deciding personal freedoms

You can have personal freedom with guns, similarly you don't need guns to maintain your freedoms. You don't have to have guns to protect from tyranny, because you can bet your ass that a tyrant will take over if they wish. They will then be removed from power, and removing them doesn't need guns, nor would it really help at all. If you're so afraid of tyranny that you think you need guns to prevent it, then here is an even bigger problem.

That's what I'm saying, there should be a reason for owning a gun, not just giving it to those that ask just because.

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Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:19 am on June 26, 2008

But statistics prove it doesn't make a difference. People aren't scared of everyone because they may have a gun. Arming everyone won't solve the problem, it will just make it worse.

If statistics don't make a difference, how would you explain the higher crime rate in DC over a large portion of cities all over the world? Disregarding Third-world-countries.

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