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Abortion
Replies: 120Last Post July 15, 2008 8:40pm by cboy305
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Quote: from jujube 91 at 3:07 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 3:04 pm on July 13, 2008

If you don't like it, then don't do it, but don't push your morals onto others.  

 That is your logic.


Exactly. So fine, you don't have to get an abortion. But you don't have the right to tell me I can't.


So if you don't like rape, then don't rape anyone.

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Quote: from Fauna at 3:06 pm on July 13, 2008

a stance must be taken either way, and I value living women's rights over the creation of foetal rights.

Children are living you anti-science buffoon.

Women have the right to have or not have sex, but not the right to murder their own children.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 2:28 am on July 14, 2008

Children are living you anti-science buffoon.

Women have the right to have or not have sex, but not the right to murder their own children.


haha, children are living, not foetuses. a foetus isn't a person, as defined by law.

no, I think you'll find women do have the right to get an abortion, if that is what you meant by the phrase "murder their own children".

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Quote: from jujube 91 at 1:09 pm on July 13, 2008

But no, abortions evil. It's better to see the kid starving on the street.
Abortion is bad because its killing kids before they have a chance to even become useful or not. unwanted kids dont always end up as morons or bad ppl or burdens to society.

the things though is repukes only bitch about helping kids when they unborn. when they born they cant wait to kill them off and hate them when the unmarried girls have them.

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Quote: from jakelong at 8:59 pm on July 13, 2008

the things though is repukes only bitch about helping kids when they unborn. when they born they cant wait to kill them off and hate them when the unmarried girls have them.
Your ignorance is exceeded only by your ability to generalize.

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Quote: from jakelong at 6:59 pm on July 13, 2008

the things though is repukes only bitch about helping kids when they unborn. when they born they cant wait to kill them off and hate them when the unmarried girls have them.

This.

They'll fight hardcore to make sure the kid is born...But as soon as it's out of the vagina, it's on it's own.  Born into a family that can't afford health insurance?  Tough shit.  Gay?  You're an abomination.  Female?  You're not mature enough to decide what you can do with your own body.  Poor family?  Unable to escape the working class?  Stuck earning minimum wage?  Oh well, tough break---But hey, you can always join the military!

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Quote: from Baron Samedi at 10:32 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 6:59 pm on July 13, 2008

the things though is repukes only bitch about helping kids when they unborn. when they born they cant wait to kill them off and hate them when the unmarried girls have them.

This.

They'll fight hardcore to make sure the kid is born...But as soon as it's out of the vagina, it's on it's own.  Born into a family that can't afford health insurance?  Tough shit.  Gay?  You're an abomination.  Female?  You're not mature enough to decide what you can do with your own body.  Poor family?  Unable to escape the working class?  Stuck earning minimum wage?  Oh well, tough break---But hey, you can always join the military!


Who is "they"? Where are you getting this information?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:37 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from Baron Samedi at 10:32 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 6:59 pm on July 13, 2008

the things though is repukes only bitch about helping kids when they unborn. when they born they cant wait to kill them off and hate them when the unmarried girls have them.
 

 This.  

 They'll fight hardcore to make sure the kid is born...But as soon as it's out of the vagina, it's on it's own.  Born into a family that can't afford health insurance?  Tough shit.  Gay?  You're an abomination.  Female?  You're not mature enough to decide what you can do with your own body.  Poor family?  Unable to escape the working class?  Stuck earning minimum wage?  Oh well, tough break---But hey, you can always join the military!


Who is "they"? Where are you getting this information?

From conservative talking points.

-No universal healthcare.
-Abortions are evil.
-Gays are bad.
-The government shouldn't be stepping in to help the poor.  Let them fail, that's the only way they'll learn.
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oh I get it. They are for "abortion" of the 18 year old kid in a war. Yeah thats about right.

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Quote: from Fauna at 6:33 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 2:28 am on July 14, 2008


 Children are living you anti-science buffoon.  

 Women have the right to have or not have sex, but not the right to murder their own children.


haha, children are living, not foetuses.


Isn't it cute when the anti-choice idiots start going against science.


a foetus isn't a person, as defined by law.  

Just like blacks weren't persons, as defined by law?


no, I think you'll find women do have the right to get an abortion, if that is what you meant by the phrase "murder their own children".

Just like a master had the right to kill their slaves?

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I put 'something else'. I think it has to do with the motivation. If a person truly doesn't think that they could provide a good life for the child, or find a good, loving family, then it can be the right thing to do, to not put a child through a life of resentment, and hardships. However, if a woman has an abortion because of the mere 'inconvenience' or as a form of birth control, that is disgusting.

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If she knew full and well that she wasn't in the position to have children before having sex, then it might as well be listed as a mere 'inconvenience'...

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Quote: from whoisabs at 9:14 pm on July 13, 2008

If she knew full and well that she wasn't in the position to have children before having sex, then it might as well be listed as a mere 'inconvenience'...

You completely missed my point....

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nop..its just killing a human being

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Quote: from Baron Samedi at 10:42 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:37 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from Baron Samedi at 10:32 pm on July 13, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 6:59 pm on July 13, 2008

the things though is repukes only bitch about helping kids when they unborn. when they born they cant wait to kill them off and hate them when the unmarried girls have them.
 

  This.  

  They'll fight hardcore to make sure the kid is born...But as soon as it's out of the vagina, it's on it's own.  Born into a family that can't afford health insurance?  Tough shit.  Gay?  You're an abomination.  Female?  You're not mature enough to decide what you can do with your own body.  Poor family?  Unable to escape the working class?  Stuck earning minimum wage?  Oh well, tough break---But hey, you can always join the military!


Who is "they"? Where are you getting this information?

From conservative talking points.

-No universal healthcare.
-Abortions are evil.
-Gays are bad.
-The government shouldn't be stepping in to help the poor.  Let them fail, that's the only way they'll learn.
-RECRUIT!  RECRUIT!  RECRUIT!


I don't think so. That sounds more like your biased imagination.

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