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Abortion: It's like killing a bug... (Intellectuals)
Replies: 123 — Last Post Aug. 20, 2008 10:22pm by Medicated Smile
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Ever kill a scorpion? Cockroach? I don't see how it's any different than abortion. I bet you don't even think twice about it? So why is it so wrong to abort an undeveloped baby? After all, just as a bug, it's defenseless.

Just because a baby is one of our own does not mean we must "protect" it. After all, I don't see many people protecting bugs.

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i don't feel the need to equate abortion to anything
it's just the right thing to do
there are too many people around
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Has a bug ever accomplished anything great?
By getting an abortion, you are killing something that has the potential to change the world for the better.

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Oh, I replied before I saw the new topic:

A scorpion can live though, right?
So can a cockroach.

A baby 0-2 months into the pregnancy cannot live outside of the mother.



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IMHO, it differs a lot depending on how religious one may be.

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It is killing a living human being. Are you trying to suggest that because a baby is defenseless, that we should kill it?

The baby should be born. If the parents don't want it, they can put it up for adoption.

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Quote: from meine92 at 11:26 pm on July 16, 2008
Has a bug ever accomplished anything great?
By getting an abortion, you are killing something that has the potential to change the world for the better.

How are we to define what is "great"? From an ant's point of view, a massive colony could be considered "great". Just because it is great in our point of view, doesn't amount to anything. It would be "great" in human eyes but not to the rest of the world.

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Quote: from im with stupid at 11:29 pm on July 16, 2008
It is killing a living human being. Are you trying to suggest that because a baby is defenseless, that we should kill it?

The baby should be born. If the parents don't want it, they can put it up for adoption.

No, I am simply comparing abortion to the killing of bugs. How is it any different?

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Quote: from im with stupid at 10:29 pm on July 16, 2008
It is killing a living human being. Are you trying to suggest that because a baby is defenseless, that we should kill it?

The baby should be born. If the parents don't want it, they can put it up for adoption.

I wasn't aware that carrying a child to term was as easy as snapping your fingers.  It can easily ruin a woman's life.

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Quote: from N e o at 10:30 pm on July 16, 2008
Quote: from meine92 at 11:26 pm on July 16, 2008
Has a bug ever accomplished anything great?  
 By getting an abortion, you are killing something that has the potential to change the world for the better.

How are we to define what is "great"? From an ant's point of view, a massive colony could be considered "great". Just because it is great in our point of view, doesn't amount to anything. It would be "great" in human eyes but not to the rest of the world.

Does a massive colony affect the entire planet?


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Quote: from iwashere85 at 11:26 pm on July 16, 2008
Oh, I replied before I saw the new topic:

A scorpion can live though, right?
So can a cockroach.

A baby 0-2 months into the pregnancy cannot live outside of the mother.

This goes back to the baby and the bug being defenseless. If you decide to step on a bug, it's going to die, it does not have a chance to fight back.

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Quote: from N e o at 12:31 am on July 17, 2008
Quote: from im with stupid at 11:29 pm on July 16, 2008
It is killing a living human being. Are you trying to suggest that because a baby is defenseless, that we should kill it?  

 The baby should be born. If the parents don't want it, they can put it up for adoption.

No, I am simply comparing abortion to the killing of bugs. How is it any different?

Bugs never aspire to anything. The baby that would have been born may have been the president. You never gave the baby a chance because you were selfishly caught up in your pathetic life.

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Quote: from N e o at 1:32 am on July 17, 2008
This goes back to the baby and the bug being defenseless. If you decide to step on a bug, it's going to die, it does not have a chance to fight back.

But, the bug can live, RIGHT NOW.

At that point, the "baby' has no chance at living outside mother.

I'm not PRO-CHOICE ALL THE WAY, though.

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Quote: from im with stupid at 11:34 pm on July 16, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 12:31 am on July 17, 2008
Quote: from im with stupid at 11:29 pm on July 16, 2008
It is killing a living human being. Are you trying to suggest that because a baby is defenseless, that we should kill it?

  The baby should be born. If the parents don't want it, they can put it up for adoption.

 

 No, I am simply comparing abortion to the killing of bugs. How is it any different?

Bugs never aspire to anything. The baby that would have been born may have been the president. You never gave the baby a chance because you were selfishly caught up in your pathetic life.

Again... As I said, as humans we may see it as great. What about the rest of the world? After all, we are not the only ones to inhabit it.

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Quote: from iwashere85 at 11:35 pm on July 16, 2008
Quote: from N e o at 1:32 am on July 17, 2008
This goes back to the baby and the bug being defenseless. If you decide to step on a bug, it's going to die, it does not have a chance to fight back.

But, the bug can live, RIGHT NOW.

At that point, the "baby' has no chance at living outside mother.  

I'm not PRO-CHOICE ALL THE WAY, though.

Just as some species of ant's are not capable of living without being part of a colony?

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