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Shit is a more onerous theological problem than is evil
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Wise thoughts by Milan Kundera:

«When I was small and would leaf through the Old Testament retold for children and illustrated in engravings by Gustave Dore, I saw the Lord God standing on a cloud. He was an old man with eyes, nose, and a long beard, and I would say to myself that if He had a mouth, He had to eat. And if He ate, He had intestines. But that thought always gave me a fright, because even though I come from a family that was not particularly religious, I felt the idea of a divine intestine to be sacrilegious.

Spontaneously, without any theological training, I, a child, grasped the incompatibility of God and shit and thus came to question the basic thesis of Christian anthropology, namely, that man was created in God's image. Either/or: either man was created in God's image -- and God has intestines -- or God lacks intestines and man is not like Him.

The ancient Gnostics felt as I did at the age of five. In the second century, the great Gnostic master Valentinus resolved the damnable dilemma by claiming that Jesus "ate and drank, but did not defecate."

Shit is a more onerous theological problem than is evil. Since God gave man freedom, we can, if need be, accept the idea that He is not responsible for man's crimes. The responsibility for shit, however, rests entirely with Him, the Creator of Man.»

The reflection goes on and thickens, but this excerpt is just too good.


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interesting

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It's creative and in a literary sense, well-written; though it lacks any substantial argument as well as any significant purpose.

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Thats great.
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Quote: from greatescape11 at 2:50 pm on July 14, 2008

it lacks any substantial argument as well as any significant purpose.

As I said, there's a lot more to it. The purpose of this comes ahead and is integrated in the novel's theme. The Unbearable lightness of Being, btw.


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I have a slightly different take on "create man in Our image". I think the 'image' part is the 'essence' of man, the soul, not the physical body in which the soul resides. God doesn't look anything at all like 'man'. Or vice versa.

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