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According to Christianity, can Non-Christians even have sex?
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Replies: 80 — Last Post July 26, 2008 1:12pm by exceedinglyrare
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Choice Votes Percent  
I'm a Christian, I've read the post, and yes, non-Christians can have sex. 17 25%
I'm a Christian, read the post, and no, non-Christians can't have sex. 3 4%
I'm not a Christian. 37 55%
I'm incapable of reading posts or thinking of coherent responses to them. 10 14%
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Quote: from Shogun villimax at 11:58 pm on July 14, 2008
I didin't think of that.  
But what if the god they are worshiping IS Jehovah.

You're bordering dangerously on heresy you know...

I don't personally have a problem with that.

Point is, standard Christian belief does not accept that Jehovah is worshiped in non-Christian traditions and thus we can assume that Jehovah doesn't believe two Hindus can marry with their pagan arrangements.

Post edited at 12:01 am on July 15, 2008 by Shaknbake

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Quote: from iamsandy at 10:36 pm on July 14, 2008
christians shouldn't have sex forever
the bible says sex is evil

quit stating messeges you farted out as fact

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 2:00 am on July 15, 2008
Point is, standard Christian belief does not accept that Jehovah is worshiped in non-Christian traditions and thus we can assume that Jehovah doesn't believe two Hindus can marry with their pagan arrangements.
I don't think that any Christians claim that Jews don't follow the same God we do.

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If your not Christian you go to hell when you die anyway so it doesn't matter.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:35 am on July 15, 2008
I don't think that any Christians claim that Jews don't follow the same God we do.

Quite right. Should've said "Judeo-Christian"

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 2:33 pm on July 14, 2008
If marriage is a Christian and not a secular arrangement, then surely only Christians wed according to Christian standards or by Christian ceremony and in accordance with the practice of the Christian community can have marital sex.  

If sex is a sin outside of marriage, and only allowed within, doesn't that mean that all non-Christians are having unmarried sex? Is that acceptable to Jehovah, by Christian standards? Is it possible for anyone but Christians to be married and have sex, in Jehovah's eyes?

The answer of whether it is all right or a sin is irrelevant. They are going to Hell either way because they are non Christians.

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 1:39 pm on July 15, 2008
The answer of whether it is all right or a sin is irrelevant. They are going to Hell either way because they are non Christians.

If we were talking salvation, you'd be quite right. We're not, so don't be talking to me about relevance.

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 2:24 am on July 16, 2008
Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 1:39 pm on July 15, 2008
The answer of whether it is all right or a sin is irrelevant. They are going to Hell either way because they are non Christians.

If we were talking salvation, you'd be quite right. We're not, so don't be talking to me about relevance.

It's actually quite relevent and Nigel is correct: if they are going to hell for being unsaved, it doesn't matter what else they do that is a sin. The biggest issue is that they are unsaved; anything else is peripheral.

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Quote: from iamsandy at 2:36 pm on July 14, 2008
the bible says sex is evil

errr...no it doesnt...

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 2:33 pm on July 15, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:35 am on July 15, 2008
I don't think that any Christians claim that Jews don't follow the same God we do.
 Quite right. Should've said "Judeo-Christian"
Next point: A Christian ceremony is not the criteria for Christians to recognize a legal marriage. And I don't know what you mean by 'Christian standards'.

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Depending on their religious beliefs, it should be up to the non-christians. If they have none such believes then it should be up to their own moral code.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:04 am on July 16, 2008
It's actually quite relevent and Nigel is correct: if they are going to hell for being unsaved, it doesn't matter what else they do that is a sin. The biggest issue is that they are unsaved; anything else is peripheral.

...If this were a thread on whether or not premarital sex is important as far as non-Christians go. Is that the thread I made? No.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:26 am on July 16, 2008
Next point: A Christian ceremony is not the criteria for Christians to recognize a legal marriage. And I don't know what you mean by 'Christian standards'.


Am I talking about Christians recognizing the marriage, or about Jehovah? Is it Christian consensus that defines sin now?

"Christian standards" as in whatever you people think it takes for a couple to be married and therefore free to have sex, as a married couple.

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 2:48 am on July 18, 2008
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:04 am on July 16, 2008
It's actually quite relevent and Nigel is correct: if they are going to hell for being unsaved, it doesn't matter what else they do that is a sin. The biggest issue is that they are unsaved; anything else is peripheral.

...If this were a thread on whether or not premarital sex is important as far as non-Christians go. Is that the thread I made? No.

In that case, I'm not sure what you're looking for. You're asking if non-Christians can have sex according to Christians; I'm saying that it doesn't matter whether or not them having sex is a sin, that by Christian doctrine, they're condemned for being unsaved.

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 1:50 am on July 18, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 5:26 am on July 16, 2008
Next point: A Christian ceremony is not the criteria for Christians to recognize a legal marriage. And I don't know what you mean by 'Christian standards'.

 
Am I talking about Christians recognizing the marriage, or about Jehovah? Is it Christian consensus that defines sin now?

"Christian standards" as in whatever you people think it takes for a couple to be married and therefore free to have sex, as a married couple.

You were talking about both, Christians and God (re-read your OP). My point was only about Christians' acceptance of a marriage made outside of a Christian ceremony. Your definition of 'Christian standards' would only reinforce that point, in my opinion.

Next point: (IMO) God does, I believe, accept any "marriage" made in the hearts of the man and the woman, the commitment to each other, without regard to the ceremony performed.

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