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Gender and fighting.
Replies: 29Last Post Aug. 5, 2008 10:43am by sophos
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Quote: from Human Nature at 9:39 pm on July 16, 2008

I think it's wrong to fight, either way about it, I'm 100% for love, not war.

I believe though, that it's wrong for girls to fight. It's very unfeminine. Therefore, if a girl has the balls to up and hit a guy, he has every right to hit her back. She's throwing away her "delicate femininity" by throwing a punch. He has every right to defend himself in the case.

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It isn't reasonable to say that women shouldn't fight because it isn't feminine.

It is reasonable to say that you should be able to hit back if attacked by a female.

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I would block the punches and try to get make it so she can't hit anyone until she calms down.

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I believe that the "guys can't hit girls" rule is unreasonable, since every person should have a right to self-defense. However, anyone who delivers the first blow should be at fault, male or female. Also, anyone who easily overpowers the other and does so just to inflict more pain should be at fault as well. So I agree with you that nobody should fight.
However, girls are human just like guys, and in extreme circumstances are prone to lose their temper and get aggressive, just like anyone else. The guy should have the right to hit back for the reason of defense, but NOT because the girl is throwing away her "delicate femininity."

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The only interesting thing you've said, Nature, is that you don't think girls should fight because it's "unfeminine". THAT is disgusting, I don't give a damn what you think about violence.

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Yeah anyone can fight including girls. There's nothing wrong with girls learning how to fight and sparring and stuff. No one should attack someone else unless in self defense though.

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It's fine for girls to be physically agressive; it doesn't make them "unfeminine". Or can only guys woop somebody without social reprucussions. What bull.

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I wish more females gave an opinion on this.

Again, I think it's absurd that guys just can't hit girls. Girls use that to an advantage, sure, kick a handicapped kid.


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No way. If a lad hits me, I'll go for it. If a lass hits me, I will not hit back. It's just not right.

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I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.

I also disagree against the "love, not war" thing. People fight for a reason. They have an opinion about something. Fighting is being assertive. If you don't fight back and you let everybody get their way then you are being very passive and you won't get anywhere with that.

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Quote: from crazy4you at 3:03 pm on July 23, 2008

I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.

It's completely ignorant that you think that the guy would deserve being hit no matter what. I'd hit a girl to defend myself. Hell, I consider my safety more important than being a gentleman. It's disrespectful to hit ANYONE, not just a girl.

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Quote: from Silence of Thought at 7:43 pm on July 23, 2008

Quote: from crazy4you at 3:03 pm on July 23, 2008

I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.

It's completely ignorant that you think that the guy would deserve being hit no matter what. I'd hit a girl to defend myself. Hell, I consider my safety more important than being a gentleman. It's disrespectful to hit ANYONE, not just a girl.



I know. I'm saying that IF the guy deserved it... Like if he said something nasty, than that gives her ever right to give him a little slap. He shouldn't slap her back for that though.

Now if it's pull blown punching and stuff, then heck, go for it. If she deserves it she should know it.

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Quote: from runthespread at 2:04 am on July 23, 2008

I wish more females gave an opinion on this.  

Again, I think it's absurd that guys just can't hit girls. Girls use that to an advantage, sure, kick a handicapped kid.



I wasn't going to respond to this, but since you said you wanted to hear a female perspective...

I don't really see things in a "feminine" or "masculine" light, so I don't see it as unfeminine for a woman to fight. I think a man has every right to hit back. I don't think men should go around punching women, but I don't believe women should go around punching men, either. I don't see sex as having much to do with whether or not violence is acceptable.

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Quote: from crazy4you at 5:54 pm on July 24, 2008

Quote: from Silence of Thought at 7:43 pm on July 23, 2008

Quote: from crazy4you at 3:03 pm on July 23, 2008

I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.
 

 It's completely ignorant that you think that the guy would deserve being hit no matter what. I'd hit a girl to defend myself. Hell, I consider my safety more important than being a gentleman. It's disrespectful to hit ANYONE, not just a girl.



I know. I'm saying that IF the guy deserved it... Like if he said something nasty, than that gives her ever right to give him a little slap. He shouldn't slap her back for that though.

Now if it's pull blown punching and stuff, then heck, go for it. If she deserves it she should know it.


I don't really agree. Deserving is an opinion and physical abuse is hardly justifiable by an opinion. If you're going to qualify men as more capable of fighting than women, that's one thing. But if a less capable entity struck, that shouldn't mean that the more capable one shouldn't retaliate...same with countries, if a small country attacked the US, the US shouldn't hesitate to attack back even if it was a little attack that was "deserved."

And I doubt a girl would admit to deserving hits, even if she threw the first blows. It's more likely that she'd get the guy in trouble for it due to the double standard.


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I disagree. So what if it's unfeminine? Yes, the man should be able to hit her back, but not because she's lost her femininity. Women should not be obligated to follow the social guidelines implicated by "femininity," just as men aren't always "masculine."

Post edited at 10:45 pm on Aug. 2, 2008 by Alabamarama

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Gentlemen's rule of thumb: Always respect the weaker sex.

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