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Do we have free will if god is all knowing?
(title edited to be less offensive)
Replies: 136 — Last Post July 29 1:45pm by justin1990rm
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( justin1990rm )


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If god is all knowing then he knows exactly what I will do tommorow .
If he knows exactly what I'll do tommorow then he could make a note (in his head) of exactly what I will do tommorow .
If he can't do that he is not all-knowing .
If he can make a list with exactly what I will do tommorow and I do something that is not on that note, then he is not all-knowing .
If he is all knowing then I will do everything on that note in the right order because if he is(all knowing) then there should be 0 probability that I will make a choice not written on the note; otherwise there is probability that the list will be wrong.
If he is all knowing then there can only be one way I carry out my day tommorow (whatever is on his note) .
If there is only one way I can carry out my day tommorow then I have no free will because free will assumes that there is a possibility of choosing more than one choice. (and a possibility requires probability)

Post edited at 1:52 pm on July 18, 2008 by justin1990rm

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supersxydude111

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u messed up
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uwastedmyheart


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Get out freak.

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baka


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in which case sue god, also im an athesist so to me god dosnt exsist so to me it would be your fault
lol

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iinsurgent


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Or maybe you could not assume there is a god and be a decent human being who would prefer to leave my sister's vag alone?
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SpottedTiger


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Free will.

Also, you're sick.

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GTFO

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ok just to clear things up i would never do anything like that its just a point....
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iinsurgent


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People will argue that free will is still there. You have the choice of what decisions you're going to make, god just knows you're going to make them beforehand.
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then he wouldn't be able to make the note/list the day before
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and he would not be all knowing
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iinsurgent


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Why not?
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runthespread


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But where does choice come into play, because God gave man choice and free will.
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( justin1990rm )


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cause he doesnt even know what to put down on a list
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Midnight Frost


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Say maybe God knows what's going to happen. Does that neccessarily mean that He has to stop it from happening?

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