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nikki
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It's not snobby. The intellectual test is hardly challenging, and if want to take the opinion that this forum is elitist, then they can always join and argue it.
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5:42 am on Aug. 7, 2008 | Joined: Dec. 2002 | Days Active: 1,765 Join to learn more about nikki France | GLBT Ally Female | Posts: 20,207 | Points: 52,374
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Quote: from xoxo1234 at 10:30 am on July 15, 2008
It's a joke. I'm hardly intellectual, but I passed. This forum is a bunch of losers trying to boost their self esteem by using bigger words than other people. 
Oh, fuck, that happens everywhere, online and off. And, what the hell? "Common folk"? We're not talking about royalty and a bum on the street, we're talking about the simple difference between someone who wants to take the time to read a thread/post and respond with something relevant and contributory and someone who just wants to aquire as many points as they possibly can. The Intellectual Test, IMO, is less about IQ and more about who wants to actually take the time to go through all that and , consequently, who is most likely to take the time to read a thread and think up a good reply. A lot of things in life have requirements...jobs, schools, clubs, etc. That hardly means all those things are elitist, they're just striving to pull together similar people.
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person11988
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The biggest thing about this forum is that if you go through the trouble to pass the test, most people won't spam and will actually read a whole thread before posting, and usually post something that is worth time to read. Imagine if I'd posted "I don't believe in the stock market" on another forum, I wouldve been bombarded by so many people just saying I'm wrong and not explaining why, eventually people would not even be able to read it because there would be so much spam.
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person11988
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Quote: from Baron Samedi at 10:35 am on Aug. 8, 2008
I just blew my own mind... I seriously never noticed this until right now... Ash Ketchum. Ketchum. Ketch um. Catch 'em. Catch them. Gotta catch them all.  
No one would post this. Not that it's stupid, because I thought it was kind of funny, well worth the second it took to read it. But it wouldnt belong in something titled "the intellectual forum"
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Wilder
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Is there something inherently wrong with snobbery of that kind? I mean, let's say that the Intellectual Forum actually did its job and kept idiots out. What's wrong with having a place for smart people to talk, even if it does exclude stupid people? Isn't that the entire point of upper and lower division classes in college? Also, I think that the diversity of LW's population is a major factor. It's not like we're taking a class of kids the same age from the same school and making a smart kid lunch table and a stupid kid lunch table. We're taking thirteen-year-old and putting them in the same online community as college students. In this case it's not a matter of snobbishly ignoring idiots, but simply acknowledging that a wide range in population will result in a wide range of education/ ignorance and trying to free some discussions from ignorance.
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Hosko
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I think it's a great idea, those who want a well thought out, detailed response that is likely to have a balanced and weighted argument behind it, without bias, will make an effort to become part of this forum and commence the discourse-age!
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Quote: from Blackadder at 2:29 pm on Aug. 8, 2008
Imo, Its not hard enough... because at the moment people like you get to waste our forum space with bullshit topics like this (do you even realise your not the first to make this point?) and then have the audacity to tell us were snobs! well, fuck you. I say you shouldn't be in here, nor should hispanics.... I dont like them either. 
If it was harder, someone who completely misses the point wouldn't be able to post in my thread, and would be able to post without reverting to petty insults and vulgarity. So fuck off, cunt.
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libertine
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I'd say it's elitist, sure, but I don't really see why elitism of this kind is at all a negative thing. For an example (inspired from my results today), if a university says they need someone with grades AAA for their course, it is elitism, but it is simply a minimum standard to suit the needs of the people involved. If livewire wants a forum where posts are (supposedly) of a higher quality, there needs to be a minimum standard, and I don't see why it is a bad thing.
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rokkin1
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I just read the whole first page of arguement and realized, this is the perfect example! So far its been well thought out arguements and replies. If a topic like this was in another forum where ANYBODY could post, I really don't think it would be like that, its would be spammed with people just trying to gain points and posting like 5 words that make no sense at all. Anyway, I don't think the test was hard at all, if anything it just filters out lazy people that don't have the dedication to take a stupid test, which filters out the ignorant idiots of this site in the process.
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