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Who is the selfish one when suicide is involved? |
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Replies: 51 Last Post Aug. 12, 2008 6:58am by Loud Dog
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Web Resources: Suicide Myths Dispelled, Suicide Information
USA Suicide Hotline: 1-800-SUICIDE (1-800-784-2433)
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I think that just as we have a right to live, we have a right to die, whenever we want. Unfortunately, suicide is illegal and if it fails you usually get resuscitated. If I don't like my life and want to die I think that euthanasia would be good for me (this is hypothetical). However, family members and friends often consider the act of suicide selfish to them. But isn't it also selfish of the family and friends to not allow him the right to die? I know that they love him, but that love has crossed into selfishness. They would rather have him live a life of misery than enjoy a peaceful, painless death. Discuss.
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Personally, I think that it is a persons right to live or die as they please. If they have not been able to deal with life, or have quality of life issues, and they dont want to go on, then why should they? I agree. Society is quite unfair for making people feel like dying is the wrong thing to do. Whether it be someone who has immense depression/stress issues, or someone with a brain tumor, there is no reason why someone should be forced to live a horrible life just because everyone around them doesnt want to let go. If someone is ready to die, let them.
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It depends. I think everyone has the right to decide if their life is worth living or not, but it can still be selfish, even if they have the right to kill them self. Like say you're a mother with kids who depend on you and a husband who would be crushed if you died. In that case, yes it is selfish to commit suicide.
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Quote: from mo money17 at 12:24 pm on July 11, 2008
It depends. I think everyone has the right to decide if their life is worth living or not, but it can still be selfish, even if they have the right to kill them self. Like say you're a mother with kids who depend on you and a husband who would be crushed if you died. In that case, yes it is selfish to commit suicide.
I don't have a husband, but I understand what you mean. I won't do it because as you said, I do have kids that depend on me so thoughts of suicide are not going to develop in my mind until at least middle-age.
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Depends how you're defining selfishness. If the person's family and friends are concerned that the person has a life worth living and is throwing it away, then they aren't being selfish; however, the person attempting suicide because he's in so much pain and can't bear it is.
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Quote: from Nikki at 1:10 pm on July 13, 2008
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:17 pm on July 11, 2008
Why are they selfish when they know full well that the person's misery is only temporary? 
Nobody can judge someone elses happiness. 
No, but you can know that, just like happiness, misery is an emotion that changes with time and circumstance. Depending on the reasons for a person's misery, I'd say that loved ones could pretty accurately gauge whether or not this person's misery would be temporary. Regardless, suicide is still the more selfish action, by definition. The loved ones are worrying about the suicide victim's happiness as well as their own, while the suicide victim is only worrying about his own happiness.
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nikki
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I disagree. I mean, you have no right to discriminate against a person for taking their own life. They have the free will to do that, and why should anyone else have the right to take that freedom away?
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nikki
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But it's also selfish to want someone to live in misery to make you happy.
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