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Quote: from Takinam at 8:15 am on Aug. 26, 2008
Lol. Do any other studies support the results of this one? Or should we just believe this study and negate the rest? XD. 
Negate the rest? Where the hell do you live? Around here, when me and my friends were growing up, it was dominantly white with a few Negroes. We all got along, white/black. Now, in the past 5 years, Hispanics have immigrated here in shocking numbers. Let me tell you this: A LOT of whites AND blacks are moving. NOBODY likes the Hispanic influence here. There are BEATING their culture, language, customs, food, and more INTO US. NOBODY likes this, NOBODY. Once I meet a native of this place that likes this influence, I will tell you. But, until then, this multiculturalism is hated by ALL of us, not just the whites.
------- "One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents... occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik, Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"
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Quote: from Bud2400 at 4:48 pm on Aug. 26, 2008
This is generally why proponents of multiculturalism will advocate less integration 
Its funny because thats not the message i get from multiculturalism. its funny how the same ppl always whine about how multiculturalism is bad but what they got in mind has nothing to do with multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is just celebrating ALL cultures and not just putting European culture ABOVE every OTHER culture. Its saying haiku and south american literature and african music CONTRIBUTE as MUCH to what america is as English literature. Its saying that ALL cultures of ALL the world have good and important contributions and not JUST european.
for fear that the resulting culture will be predominantly European. 
its got shit to do with "fear". listen to kidd rune. he thinks all the cultures come only from white or fair skin ppl. if you think hes the only one you live in a dream world. A lot of ppl in the 18th and 19th century and the half of 20th century ALSO thought that the ONLY GOOD culture was ONLY european culture or culture that CAME FROM european culture and that other cultures is just trash. A lot of ppl TODAY still think like that. if ppl like european culture thats cool but the way MC works is that its no longer the ONLY game in town thats all.
They generally want to downplay on European culture and promote minority cultures artificially. 
its not "downplaying" its saying its NOT THE ONLY GOOD one in the whole world. And why do you think its "artificial"? because you REALLY think non-european culture is worth shit?
I'd prefer each individual regardless of race to quit seeing the races of others and attaching labels to that, and rather treat others as they'd treat any individual. 
I agree here. but the black culture is not a race thing as I explained to you many times but you still dont understand.
Overall, I see such things as inevitable, but may hold back a generation or two. A free for all, without any kind of barriers or people trying to push what they think is "better," is the best way to go. That would give you the most natural and painless result.
sure but let ppl group themselves together TOO if they wish. Don't FORBID them to associate if they want and dont FORCE them to associate if they dont want to. Thats the better way.
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Quote: from jakelong at 9:49 pm on Aug. 26, 2008
Quote: from Bud2400 at 4:48 pm on Aug. 26, 2008
This is generally why proponents of multiculturalism will advocate less integration 
Its funny because thats not the message i get from multiculturalism. its funny how the same ppl always whine about how multiculturalism is bad but what they got in mind has nothing to do with multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is just celebrating ALL cultures and not just putting European culture ABOVE every OTHER culture. Its saying haiku and south american literature and african music CONTRIBUTE as MUCH to what america is as English literature. Its saying that ALL cultures of ALL the world have good and important contributions and not JUST european. 
Well then, you're alone. Us experiencing multiculturalism are getting our culture taken over.
for fear that the resulting culture will be predominantly European. 
its got shit to do with "fear". listen to kidd rune. he thinks all the cultures come only from white or fair skin ppl. if you think hes the only one you live in a dream world. 
Uh.... no, I don't. Many have white influence, such as Chinese culture and African culture.
A lot of ppl in the 18th and 19th century and the half of 20th century ALSO thought that the ONLY GOOD culture was ONLY european culture or culture that CAME FROM european culture and that other cultures is just trash. A lot of ppl TODAY still think like that.
I think it's somewhat normal to think your culture is the best. But, on the other hand, you shouldn't beat your culture onto others until they're a bloody stump.
if ppl like european culture thats cool but the way MC works is that its no longer the ONLY game in town thats all.
Exactly. They have a culture and they FORCE it to be dominant.
They generally want to downplay on European culture and promote minority cultures artificially. 
its not "downplaying" its saying its NOT THE ONLY GOOD one in the whole world. And why do you think its "artificial"? because you REALLY think non-european culture is worth shit?
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you want nonwhite culture, GO TO MEXICO/AFRICA/ASIA. I don't care. Go seek out culture if you REALLY want it that much, then you don't hurt anyone in the process. We're not saying that ours is better, we just don't want it destroyed because of multiculturalism.
I'd prefer each individual regardless of race to quit seeing the races of others and attaching labels to that, and rather treat others as they'd treat any individual. 
I agree here. but the black culture is not a race thing as I explained to you many times but you still dont understand.
It's influenced by their genetic makeup, but can be shared with other races too.
Overall, I see such things as inevitable, but may hold back a generation or two. A free for all, without any kind of barriers or people trying to push what they think is "better," is the best way to go. That would give you the most natural and painless result.
sure but let ppl group themselves together TOO if they wish. Don't FORBID them to associate if they want and dont FORCE them to associate if they dont want to. Thats the better way. 
We're not stopping people from associating with others. That is HARDLY the case. We WANT to forbid people from barging in (many times illegally) and culturally taking over an area.
------- "One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents... occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik, Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"
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Us experiencing multiculturalism are getting our culture taken over. 
I didn't know MC was a battle that had to be won by only one culture.
Uh.... no, I don't. Many have white influence, such as Chinese culture and African culture. 
and vice versa.
But, on the other hand, you shouldn't beat your culture onto others until they're a bloody stump. 
you mean like the colonials did to indians?
Exactly. They have a culture and they FORCE it to be dominant. 
Nope NO culture is dominant in MC.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you want nonwhite culture, GO TO MEXICO/AFRICA/ASIA.
If you want european culture GOT BACK TO EUROPE I don't care.
We're not stopping people from associating with others. That is HARDLY the case. We WANT to forbid people from barging in (many times illegally) and culturally taking over an area.
You mean like how anglos barged in illegally into Mexico and took over Texas and Alta California and imposed slavery in areas where it was previously forbidden?
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Quote: from jakelong at 3:22 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
Us experiencing multiculturalism are getting our culture taken over. 
I didn't know MC was a battle that had to be won by only one culture. 
Look at the world. It IS. I can give MANY examples.
Uh.... no, I don't. Many have white influence, such as Chinese culture and African culture. 
and vice versa.
Yes, but nonwhite cultures more commonly have white influence than white culture having nonwhite influence.
But, on the other hand, you shouldn't beat your culture onto others until they're a bloody stump. 
you mean like the colonials did to indians?
Yes.
Exactly. They have a culture and they FORCE it to be dominant. 
Nope NO culture is dominant in MC.
Where do you live, mars? There is NO place with multiculturalism inside of one area. It's impossible. I don't know what kind of dreamworld you're living in, but if two cultures exist in one place, one is fading while the other isn't. Multiculturalism may be a good idea, but it can't work. It ALWAYS goes back to monoculturalism, ALWAYS.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. If you want nonwhite culture, GO TO MEXICO/AFRICA/ASIA.
If you want european culture GOT BACK TO EUROPE I don't care.
Look: American culture is NOT European culture. America has long since been of Amerind culture, and not enough of them exist to redo this. They have their own little colonies where they can, freely, practice their culture. THAT is the only way it can exist, by separation.
We're not stopping people from associating with others. That is HARDLY the case. We WANT to forbid people from barging in (many times illegally) and culturally taking over an area.
You mean like how anglos barged in illegally into Mexico and took over Texas and Alta California and imposed slavery in areas where it was previously forbidden?
Sure... Hey, we can't learn from mistakes? Just because whites have, previously, taken over cultures, that makes it right for you to? Nowadays we view culture as important and try to preserve it. Next time you see massive white immigrations to a nonwhite territory and overtaking their culture, tell me.
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Quote: from jakelong at 3:48 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 3:41 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
Where do you live, mars? There is NO place with multiculturalism inside of one area. It's impossible. 
in the bay area there are many different cultures. they also exist next to each other. nobody bothers anyone or says this culture is better or w/e. Theres plenty of feasts and festivals for all different cultures: japanese. mexican, irish, etc... So yeah bay area = mars 
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I'll just copy it then: If you want to experience multiculturalism, take a bus to some other culture. Buy a plane ticket and fly to another culture. You can even apply for further schooling and education in another country. With the way the world is, most countries will become "multicultural" and mini-versions of various countries within one country. The World IS multicultural, multiethnic, multifaith, multireligious and multiracial. There is a big difference between the world being so, and a single country made, forced and created to be so. Usually, the native, indigenous people and culture are supplanted, outpopulated and marginalized. If you want friends from all over the world, you don't have to force integrate aliens into the USA. If you want alien culture, SEEK IT OUT. Get off your ass and drive to the nearest Mexico for a nice burrito, but it's not like anyone said that ONLY that culture can make that food. You can be a visitor, traveler, immigrant, or temporary student/worker. Why do I get the feeling that all "multiculturalism" to you is nonwhite culture? How about you go down to Mexico, that's some nice foreign culture for you. And hey, as a plus, you don't have to fill our prisons to get your silly cultures! I, myself, have visited many places and, temporarily, lived there. Certain ethnic groups (such as Muslims in Europe) achieved dominance and have held onto it for decades. The indigenous(native) people have been outpopulated and supplanted, and are now relegated to the "host people and culture". Their culture is like Native American culture to the average American, uncommon, different, and apart. All other peoples have their own homeland country of their people, of their ethnic group, culture, language, customs, foods, traditions, moralities, values, etc., but they made a home in another peoples' ancestral homeland and country, and are able to perpetuate their ethnic identity and culture, while the native people are STILL fighting to have the right to theirs in their own ancestral homeland and nation. Yes, you're probably going to bring up the Amerinds around here. Well, after we see what we did, we regretted it. Now we have reserves for them. I don't think this should happen again. A dramatic change has been made between Amerind America and White America. If white America fades into Multiculti America, a dramatic change will also take place, one that has, historically, ALWAYS contributed to downfall. No, not a day, week, or year, but decades/centuries. Whites have built the USA under strong pillars, and nonwhite USA will, eventually, knock them down. Obviously, you have not yet experienced being replaced by other peoples who have immigrated to your native land and place of birth. I'm a native Floridian (no, I'm not talking about the Seminole Indians or anything, they're long gone. I'm talking about white-Floridian culture VS Hispanic culture) and I've experienced this very thing. I grew up with people of my race, then another race, ethnicity and culture who came to power and dominated the land of my birth and ancestors because they achieved great numbers through massive, unabated immigration, more children, and formed ethnic blocs which helped them, socially, rise to power. But, if you insist on forcing integration into the US, you are NO BETTER than the whites that, supposedly, slaughtered all Amerinds and nonwhites when they wanted to populate an area. But, in your inhumane way, you're throwing them out of their homeland, giving them no place to live, and forcing them into a slow, lonely death where they can't relate to anyone. Many of you talk about how whites are so evil, but what the hell are you trying to do?
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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:56 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
The World IS multicultural, multiethnic, multifaith, multireligious and multiracial. There is a big difference between the world being so, and a single country made, forced and created to be so.
Except most Americans come FROM the world anyway.
Usually, the native, indigenous people and culture are supplanted, outpopulated and marginalized.
yeah like the native americans. If you really hate MC then you should adopt native american culture custom and language.
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Yes, you're probably going to bring up the Amerinds around here. Well, after we see what we did, we regretted it. Now we have reserves for them. I don't think this should happen again.
Then give back the land to them.
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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:56 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
But, if you insist on forcing integration into the US
I thought abs and bud24 was FOR integration. ah well coulda fooled me.
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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:41 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
America has long since been of Amerind culture, and not enough of them exist to redo this. They have their own little colonies where they can, freely, practice their culture. THAT is the only way it can exist, by separation. 
I dont know if you know but thats EXACLTY what bud24 is against or so he says. Post edited at 4:17 pm on Aug. 27, 2008 by jakelong
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Except most Americans come FROM the world anyway.
Yes. As they share our money, education, businesses, people, military, cities/towns, laws, customs, ect. they should also use our culture. If they want to practice their culture, they can do so back in their country. They should never force culture onto another person as people have done historically. Learn from our mistakes.
yeah like the native americans. If you really hate MC then you should adopt native american culture custom and language. 
Look: The USA was FOUNDED by whites. The USA is a country. The whites didn't start a war, they only protected themselves. Before the Whites arrived, North American culture was Amerind: after the Whites arrived and replaced the Amerinds as the majority population, White culture replaced the original civilization, virtually overnight. The Amerinds themselves don't claim we stole any land, nor should you. In their eyes, land is not owned, therefore, can't be stolen. We saw what we did, and we will probably NEVER do it again. We're living in the 21st century, that stuff is long gone. The damage is done, and you shouldn't commit terrible acts because whites did it once.
Then give back the land to them. 
They have land. Keep in mind that they are only 0.8% of the population. The Amerind population has, through a process of natural increase and absorption of a significant number of Whites, gradually increased: by the end of the 20th century, it stood at over two million, the highest number ever in that group's entire existence. In spite of the gradual increase in the standard of living and education amongst the Amerinds, they still remain at the very bottom of the social scale in modern America. They have all of South America to live in anyway, the population down there is mestizo, a mix of Amerind, White, and Negro. They have their land. The USA is almost the size of Europe itself. Whites needed land, Amerinds had an abundance. Do you know how many of them existed when the white settlers came?
I thought abs and bud24 was FOR integration. ah well coulda fooled me. I dont know if you know but thats EXACLTY what bud24 is against or so he says. 
AND? I have to have the same ideas as them? Oh, I forgot, we're the 'racist squad' to you, I guess we all must think the EXACT same thing!
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