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Nimzo
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:45 am on Aug. 28, 2008
 Where, specifically, does the Bible say that GOD punishes people for not believing?
Mark 9:43-49
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell.And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where
" 'their worm does not die,
and the fire is not quenched.'Everyone will be salted with fire.
Revelation 20:14-15
14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
It seems fairly clear to me, everyone who doesn't believe in God goes straight to hell. hell=punishment. Can you think of another way that a persons name could be written in the 'book of life' other than belief? Post edited at 6:31 am on Aug. 28, 2008 by Nimzo
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exceedinglyrare
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I'm sorry, did either of those verses say "God punishes people who don't believe" or did they just say "people who don't believe go to hell?" I may have something in my eye and therefore have missed it, but I didn't see the "God does it" in either of those verses.
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PewPew
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I am not worrying about attending. I was expanding on Rare's party analogy regarding belief and acceptance into heaven.
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Mankind shall never be truly free
until the last king is hanged with the guts of the last priest. -Voltaire
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exceedinglyrare
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Quote: from PewPew at 10:43 am on Aug. 28, 2008
Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:14 am on Aug. 28, 2008
Quote: from PewPew at 8:57 am on Aug. 28, 2008
Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 4:38 am on Aug. 28, 2008
Let's pretend I'm having a house party. Do you think I'm really going to want you there if you essentially say that I don't exist?
But if you are having a house party you first have to send people invitations, otherwise how can you blame them for not believing that you (or the party) doesn't exist. 
Obviously, the OP has received his invitation. And just as clearly, he knows that an RSVP is required to get his name on the guest list. He just doesn't seem to believe there is actually going to be a party, but he wants to drop by and be allowed in if there is.
The invitation not in order to be allowed into the party but as a form of evidence that is there is party.
For all we know, he's received dozens of invitations, but doesn't consider them to be real evidence that there is a party.
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Let yourself be enchanted,
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Forever Angel
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Quote: from PewPew at 10:48 am on Aug. 28, 2008
I am not worrying about attending. I was expanding on Rare's party analogy regarding belief and acceptance into heaven.
That was more of a general question, not specifically aimed at you.
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"God does not play dice" - Albert Einstein
"God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking
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osmoticdespair
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Because he wants you to know and love him, don't ask me why, its not like I have a snowballs chance in hell of understanding an omnific mind. But you're not going to know and love God if you don't even believe he exists.
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