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but the vikings knew what was good for us better than we did

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just goes to show you though when invaders intermix and intermarry with the locals conflicts disappear...

Yeah for integration!  

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:16 am on Sep. 1, 2008

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 but the vikings knew what was good for us better than we did

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oh good glad thats one invasion you approve of.

just goes to show you though when invaders intermix and intermarry with the locals conflicts disappear...

Yeah for integration!

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It's not like, racially, they were changed, seeing as the Celts and invaders were about 0.003% different genetically.

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We were talking about the saxons and normans though...

BTW are you on LW 24/7?

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That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Source link?

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We were talking about the saxons and normans though...

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The Normans, or "Northmen" were the same people as the Anglo-Saxons, just of differing Germanic tribes. If you want, I could write a nice history post on Britain

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BTW are you on LW 24/7?

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Post edited at 3:01 pm on Sep. 1, 2008 by kidd rune

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and for what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be
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The Normans, or "Northmen" were the same people as the Anglo-Saxons, just of differing Germanic tribes.

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Nah. Today is labor day though, so I don't have to do anything.

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The Saxons and Engles were from Germany.Saxons and Angles were from DENMARK. You forgot the Jutes also.

Yeah and you were here friday all day, Saturday all day, Sunday all day and all last week every day for hours. I don't click the log-off button.

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hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies
and for what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be
a betrayal of the dead." - Elie Wiesel

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.Saxons and Angles were from DENMARK.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons

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The Saxons or Saxon people were a confederation of Old Germanic tribes. Their modern-day descendants in northern Germany are considered ethnic Germans; those in the eastern Netherlands are considered to be ethnic Dutch; those in north eastern Belgium are considered to be ethnic Flemish; and those in southern England ethnic English. Their earliest known area of settlement is Northern Albingia, an area approximately that of modern Holstein.

Saxons participated in the Germanic settlement of Britain during and after the 5th century. It is unknown how many migrated from the continent to Britain though estimates for the total number of Germanic settlers vary between 10,000-200,000

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I don't click the log-off button.

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where you get that shit from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons

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Oh, and GERMANIC doesn't necessarily mean GERMAN. In this sense, it means Teutonic. English itself is a Germanic language, does that mean England is German?

Some of the Anglo-Saxons were from Germany, I'm not denying this, but they were mostly Danish, and attacked FROM Denmark.

The Normans, on the other hand, were from France. Normandy to be exact. That is how English has so many French roots.

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hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies
and for what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be
a betrayal of the dead." - Elie Wiesel

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The Normans, on the other hand, were from France. Normandy to be exact. That is how English has so many French roots.

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The Normans were French speaking, but it was my understanding they didn't actually come from France directly. They weren't a French people, or didn't consider themselves as such.

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The leader of this particular band of Vikings, called Gang-Hrolf by his own people (Ralph the Walker - as he was allegedly too large for any horse to carry him comfortably) was known to the Franks as Rollo, reciprocated the Frankish recognition by being baptized as a Christian and becoming the first Duke of Normandy - the name Normandy deriving from the word Norse-man. Rollo and his Normans did indeed become loyal vassals, pledging to protect their piece of coastline against other Viking invaders.

Now, read about William the Conqueror:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_the_Conqueror

There's wiki. I didn't check it out, but I'd suggest you Google him to get credible info.

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hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies
and for what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be
a betrayal of the dead." - Elie Wiesel

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Nope, I resent Wikipedia. GRRRR Jewpedia.

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Oh, and GERMANIC doesn't necessarily mean GERMAN. In this sense, it means Teutonic. English itself is a Germanic language, does that mean England is German?

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Some of the Anglo-Saxons were from Germany, I'm not denying this, but they were mostly Danish, and attacked FROM Denmark.

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Hahaha I know wiki is not 100% perfect but you really something man. you better troll than abs.

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More German than danish anyway.

The saxons were Germans. the angels were germans.

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And, anyway, this arose from you claiming that the Normans were Germans. They were from France. The Normans WERE NOT Anglo-Saxons, but under the rule of William the Conqueror, Duke of Normandy(France).

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hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies
and for what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be
a betrayal of the dead." - Elie Wiesel

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What exactly do you mean by German anyway? Germany was not a nation or empire, but a slab of land. The Anglo-Saxons, if from PRESENT DAY Germany, weren't citizens of any German Empire.

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this arose from you claiming that the Normans were Germans.

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but hey if you want to say they're french instead then my claim that the vikings were no good invaders still stands.

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That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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they are living in that part of land which is Germany today. Their language was germanic. they were germanic. Danes were germanic too if you want to split hair.

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they were vikings from France. this arose from you claiming that the vikings were loved with open arms when they came raping and pillaging Britain. Then somehow you switched to claiming they created a great civilization there so the ONLY remotely viking people that did that were the Normans.

but hey if you want to say they're french instead then my claim that the vikings were no good invaders still stands.

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