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by having a baby before you complete your education, you're telling your baby that education is unimportant and is second to personal desires. that's a horrible example... along with all of the other poor examples she'll be setting.

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Alright, I'm going to begin with this because this is the biggest issue i have with what you are saying. I am going to bring my own personal experience into this. My mother had her first baby when she was 16 and had twins when she was 18 and me when she was 25. Now, my mother did manage to finish school, she did it being pregnant and she got absolutely nothing out of it. It is my belief that some people are born to be parents and noting else. My mother is one of those people. She had no interest in having a career as she felt that that would take her time away from her children. All she wanted out of life was a family and by the age of 25 she had lived her dream, how many people can say that by that age?

Now from your point of view, my mother indirectly taught us that education is rubbish and we should all have babies asap. You'd be very wrong. My brother is now 26 and is a fabrication welder, he earns a ton of money. The twins are 24. One of them has a baby and is a full time parent, she lives with the father and he supports her, he has a good job. The other twin is a qualified nursery nurse and i am 18, in college and have absolutely no intentions of having children soon.

I am so proud of my mother, i respect no body as much as i respect her. We grew up with her working 'dead-end' jobs and we didn't have a whole lot of money but we are all respectable adults. We value life. None of us has ever been in trouble with the police. We are upstanding citizens. Above all, our mother has taught us how to love and how to live our lives. I think i had an amazing childhood and that's because i have an amazing mother.

My own story just goes to show that you don't need a good career to be a parent, in fact i think that career mum's are probably the worst. No time for their children. They may have all the money in the world, but what does that really count. You don't need a whole lot of money to be a parent, as long as you have support from people you love and the bare essentials. 18 is a fine age to be a parent if you're ready. I think that out of you and the OP, the OP will probably be the better mother as she has her head screwed on. She'll probably be a fantastic mother who spends a whole lot of time with her child and not stuck to an office in her career. You however, will probably be the career mum, the person that thinks they can buy their children's love and i feel for them and their lives. I think in the future you should really think about reality before you criticise again.

Post edited at 8:54 am on Aug. 27, 2008 by carbonara

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Quote: from shadowofchar at 12:41 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

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by having a baby before you complete your education, you're telling your baby that education is unimportant and is second to personal desires. that's a horrible example... along with all of the other poor examples she'll be setting.

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Alright, I'm going to begin with this because this is the biggest issue i have with what you are saying. I am going to bring my own personal experience into this. My mother had her first baby when she was 16 and had twins when she was 18 and me when she was 25. Now, my mother did manage to finish school, she did it being pregnant and she got absolutely nothing out of it. It is my belief that some people are born to be parents and noting else. My mother is one of those people. She had no interest in having a career as she felt that that would take her time away from her children. All she wanted out of life was a family and by the age of 25 she had lived her dream, how many people can say that by that age?

Now from your point of view, my mother indirectly taught us that education is rubbish and we should all have babies asap. You'd be very wrong. My brother is not 26 and is a fabrication welder, he earns a ton of money. The twins are 24. One of them has a baby and is a full time parent, she lives with the father and he supports her, he has a good job. The other twin is a qualified nursery nurse and i am 18, in college and have absolutely no intentions of having children soon.

I am so proud of my mother, i respect no body as much as i respect her. We grew up with her working 'dead-end' jobs and we didn't have a whole lot of money but we are all respectable adults. We value life. None of us has ever been in trouble with the police. We are upstanding citizens. Above all, our mother has taught us how to love and how to live our lives. I think i had an amazing childhood and that's because i have an amazing mother.

My own story just goes to show that you don't need a good career to be a parent, in fact i think that career mum's are probably the worst. No time for their children. They may have all the money in the world, but what does that really count. You don't need a whole lot of money to be a parent, as long as you have support from people you love and the bare essentials. 18 is a fine age to be a parent if you're ready. I think that out of you and the OP, the OP will probably be the better mother as she has her head screwed on. She'll probably be a fantastic mother who spends a whole lot of time with her child and not stuck to an office in her career. You however, will probably be the career mum, the person that thinks they can buy their children's love and i feel for them and their lives. I think in the future you should really think about reality before you criticise again.

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oh cabonara you rock!

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Having a Bachelor or Masters degree, is not actually a need. For some people, they desire it and mores the power to them. But for many people who aren't going into a specific career, it's not necessary. Some people are fine with the idea of a simple job (vs career). There's always trade schools or community colleges as well.

Having a house is not a need either. They can be convenient for people who have a lot of 'stuff' or might have a foot in the door into the real estate market, but they can also be disastrous money-losers. Many families find it affordable and enjoyable to live in an apartment.

Priorities are like morals, they're relative and personal to you and you alone. You place great strength and importance on high levels of education, I'm sure you'll personally end up with some sort of degree. But the way you would do things is not actually the only way.

She has what is important when it comes to parenthood. What she considers to be a stable, healthy and committed relationship with a man who has worked hard to prepare for this child as well. A job that she enjoys (how many of us, parents or not, can say that we enjoy our jobs?) regardless of whether there's promotions or oodles of money.

You can't say for 100% certain that it will fail. We can't say for 100% certain that she'll succeed. What we do know is that she is now a legal adult exercising her rights to make a personal decision.

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