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oh THAT other bullcrap  man its so predictable all the stuff you spew is straight from stormfront and you fave neo-nazi BS?

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yeah so the jews started the unecessary war with the nazis just so the nazis could invade all europe. they were in league with them then!

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you know a war that was really necessary? oh yeah the wars to colonized nonwhites yeah. whitey needed those that for sure else where would they get their slaves? I mean really.

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His empire? I didn't know it was HIS. you mean he was the descendant of Alexander the great? or of constantine?

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A group of people (Germans) were ruled by a powerful sovereign(Hitler).
The definition pretty much fits.

And, if you didn't know, there is a tribe of people in Iran that claim to be direct descendants of Alexander the Great. Irrelevant but still existing :).

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Sure I mean whats going with those jews prevented Hitler to have HIS empire.

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2008http://raceandreason.110mb.com/files/~WWII Files/How_WWII_came_about.html  

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www.spearhead.com

Doesn't look like a reliable source to me, if you take a good look at that website.

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They didn't want to invade all of Europe, but HAD TO for survival.

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If they didn't do this, the war wouldn't have lasted for 1/5th the amount of time it actually did.

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I'm sure you believe the Axis was the ONLY people to invade Europe.

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Oh, and whitey is considered a derogatory term. If you think saying "nigger" is racist, saying "whitey" is too. The only difference in my eyes is that nobody is offended by "whitey".

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Empire - a group of nations or peoples ruled over by an emperor, empress, or other powerful sovereign or government

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A group of people (Germans) were ruled by a powerful sovereign(Hitler).
The definition pretty much fits.

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And, if you didn't know, there is a tribe of people in Iran that claim to be direct descendants of Alexander the Great. Irrelevant but still existing :).

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 "A people who have been persecuted for 2000 years must be doing something wrong."
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If they didn't invade there'd be NO war. the US and britain only started getting into things when Poland was invaded. by that time the nazis already had austria and checkoslovakia to play with. [/quite]Actually, the war wasn't started BECAUSE of the invasion. The USSR invaded Poland before Germany and nobody gave a shit then, did they?

And many countries were PRO-HITLER. I don't know where you get the info about everyone hating him and hating his occupation, but that wasn't the case. 60% of the Waffen SS wasn't German. Non-German volunteers came from the Netherlands, Belgium, Finland, France, Denmark, Norway, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, the Ukraine, Byelorussia, Spain, Italy, Hungary, Yugoslavia and even a very small group of British volunteers, known as the Legion of St. George.

There were many pro-National Socialist movements with large followings: the British Union of Fascists and National Socialists, the Francistes in France, the Rexist party in Belgium,  the Dutch National Socialist Bund, the Iron Guard in Romania and the Russian National Liberation Army, amongst others.

Even though France declared war on Hitler, MANY of the French were pro-Hitler and pro-National Socialism. One occurrence was when they Americans thought they were liberating the French from Nazi control, the French civilians fought back with their hunting rifles, not wanting to be a part of the Allies as beforehand.

no but the nazis trying to eat up all europe started the whole thing in europe. I think it was the Communists.

Here's poster, in French, detailing the European crusade against Communism, showing the national flags of all the countries who committed soldier volunteers to the German war effort (with the exception of the British volunteers).

Once Germany tries to take GERMAN LAND back, the French and British are the first to stop them. BUT, if the communist Jew-owned Soviet Union invades Poland and Finland nobody gives a damn. Hmmmm...

what you what me to call them, "cracker"? I mean you go on about "negro" like its the 60s. so I can call whiteys the way I want too. I never sue that word before but since you like to call ppl negros and mongols like you have a right to I can call whites whatever I want. I don't care if you call me whitey, but it's quite hypocritical I'd say.

it wasn't HIS empire before he invaded. Poland didn't belong to him. Hungary didn't belong to him. France didn't belong to him. Actually, parts of Poland should've been German and were taken for no reason at all but to CRIPPLE Germany

Versailles treaty:
In the west, the province of Alsace Lorraine was ceded to France; three German districts were given to Belgium; half of the state of Schleswig was given to Denmark; and a large slice of Germany, extending 50 kilometers west of the Rhine, was placed under effective French control by the creation of a demilitarized "buffer" zone. In the east, the German city of Danzig was declared a "free city" under control of the new established League of Nations (the forerunner to the United Nations): in reality it was run by Poland. In addition to this, a huge swathe of German land, complete with German inhabitants, was ceded directly to Poland, cutting Germany into two parts, with East Prussia being isolated on the Baltic coast; a massive part of Silesia in central Germany was given to Poland as well; and a portion of the former Austro-Hungarian Empire which was traditionally German, was cut away to form the new state of Czechoslovakia.

As you see, Germany was split apart. It lost some 25,000 square miles of territory inhabited by nearly seven million Germans. It was a recipe for a nationalist revival. The union of Germany and Austria - the logical consequence of the destruction of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, was also strictly forbidden, crippling Austria economically.

Germany was THEN presented with a bill for the war, again based on the totally false grounds that Germany had alone been responsible for the conflict. An immediate payment of the then amount of $5,000,000,000 was demanded AND PAID - by the exchange rate of the end of the 20th century, this would probably amount to several hundred times that figure.

This, however, was not all: when the Allies finally fixed the full amount of the reparations bill in 1921, it was put at a further $32,000,000,000 - in value at the time. It was not physically possible for Germany to meet this demand, but nonetheless the Weimar government, established by the Social Democratic Party government in Germany, was forced to sign the treaties: thereby earning the enduring hatred of a large number of Germans.

Translation:
Allies: FUCK YOU Germany, we bombed your asses, killed your civilians, and slaughtered your military. Now you owe us so much money your country will fall into economic ruin forcing one dollar to equate to 6,666,666,666,667 Marks. THEN, we will take your land and many of your civilians.
Germany: Oh shi-
Allies: WHAT DID YOU SAY?
Germany: ...Yay?
Allies: Good. Now PAY US AN INSANELY LARGE SUM OF MONEY NOBODY CAN HOPE TO PAY!

You see, the blaming them for a war which had been as much the Allies fault as anybody else. This repeats AGAIN in WWII. How SAD is history?

sure so what. I said irrelevant. Just popped into my mind when you spoke of Alexander the Great.

oh yeah thats right blame the victim works every time. I JUST SHAT MYSELF. The Jews were NOT the victim. You sympathize TOO MUCH.

Here's a quote:
"The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as displaced persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog."
Harry S. Truman

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"In fifteen years that have followed this resolve, he has succeeded in restoring Germany to the most powerful position in Europe, and not only has he restored the position of his country, but he has even, to a very great extent, reversed the results of the Great War ... whatever else may be thought about these exploits they are certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world."

- Winston Churchill,
British Prime Minister

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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I thought this myth was discarded a few years back. Well, I guess there are people that still think they made soap out of Jews...

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Actually, the war wasn't started BECAUSE of the invasion.

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The USSR invaded Poland before Germany and nobody gave a shit then, did they?

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And many countries were PRO-HITLER.

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I don't know where you get the info about everyone hating him and hating his occupation, but that wasn't the case.

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60% of the Waffen SS wasn't German.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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oh yeah thats right the Holocaust is myth. I mean god forbid we start thinking of nazis as big bad monsters.

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yes it was.

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Ever heard of the Non agression pact treaty between Germany and USSR? they BOTH agreed to split Poland.  Germany BROKE the pact when they invaded Poland and took it ALL.

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yeah and many were NOT. Hitler still invaded and took over.

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I did not say "everyone". I said MOST ppl hated Hitler's invasion. Did you look at how ppl welcomed the kicking out of Nazis from their land?

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Hey sure there were little nazi boot lickers everywhere. This does not mean they were the majority in their country or that what they did was approved by the rest of their country.

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Go ask a historian. Hell, ask anyone with a brain. This is NOT the case.

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You pretty much failed history right there. There's nothing else to discuss.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:24 am on Sep. 13, 2008

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Go ask a historian. Hell, ask anyone with a brain. This is NOT the case.

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Ask ANY historian, hell anyone with a brain and he'll tell you the Holocaust is not a myth.  

You pretty much failed history right there. There's nothing else to discuss.

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With any common sense, you'd see that the two historians that are the basis of the 5-6 million number are, entirely, different.

According to Hilberg, 2.67 million out of the total 5.1 million Jewish victims were murdered in six camps which the orthodox historians call "extermination camps", a term found in no German wartime document. This means that 2.43 million Holocaust victims must have met their fate outside these "extermination centers".

But Lucy Dawidowicz tells us a completely different story, contending that no less than 5.37 million Jews were gassed in the "six killing factories". Since her total death count is 5.9 million, these figures imply only 530,000 Jews died outside the "extermination camps."

Now, how do the two auguste scholars arrive at their figures? What sources do they quote? The answer is very simple: None. While both books are replete with footnotes about the most trifling things, none of the two authors makes the slightest attempt to explain what their statistics are based upon. Quite obviously, these statistics are purely arbitrary and devoid of any scientific value. Hilberg and Dawidowicz name totally different death figures for some of the "extermination camps" -- for example, Dawidowicz states that no less than 1.38 million Jews were murdered at Majdanek, while Hilberg contents himself with 50,000 -, and Hilberg's figure of Jews who died outside the "extermination centers" is nearly five times higher than Dawidowics's, yet both authors claim a total death Jewish toll of between five and six million, and both are hailed as splendid historians by the media.

So, really, it's the total number, not the methods or sources used.

The holocaust may not be a myth, but it is very exaggerated.

There are many holocaust revisionists, many in jail. Why, jakelong, why do they put you in jail for trying to investigate history? Why is that unique, but you can claim that the holodomor, which had a death toll of 8million, was fake? Why can you claim that 100's of millions of people didn't die by Jewish communist hands, but if you claim that 6million, a number void of proof, is exaggerated, then you get imprisoned and get labeled as a racist?

"The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as displaced persons as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog."
-Harry S. Truman, 33rd President of the United States

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
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You are saying there only SOME historian I should ask?

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People DEDICATE THEIR LIVES to it.

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The holocaust may not be a myth, but it is very exaggerated.

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oh yeah thats right the Holocaust is myth.

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It is.

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Why can you claim that 100's of millions of people didn't die by Jewish communist hands

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I thought I was supposed to ask ANYhistorian!

You are saying there only SOME historian I should ask?

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You dedicate YOUR life to spreading nordish BS. To each his own.

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What I said

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The 6million number itself is a myth. In a few years the "new" number will be 5.1million as it's already being spread around parts of the world (as each new number has, from 6million to 8million to 11million to 21million to 29million ect. and sorry if I missed any).

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The hands were BOTH jewish aAND communists? Didn't know stalin was jewish.

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Karl Marx, the inventor of Communism, was a Jew.

Leon Trotsky. who you should know, was a Jew.

Lev Kamenev, the early Bolshevik leader who later went on to become a leading member of the Politburo, was a Jew.

Grigori Zinoviev, head of the Petrograd Soviet, was a Jew.

Karl Radek, Lazar Kaganovich, and Moses Urtisky: ALL JEWS.

Yakov Sverdlov, the Bolshevik's Party's Central Committee chairman, was indeed a Jew. It was Sverdlov that gave the order to the Jewish Soviet secret policeman, Yurovsky, to murder the Tsar.

I can give you some US Army telegrams about Jews and Communism. Shall I?

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Do you believe that the Nordish subrace doesn't exist or do you just think they had no impact on 99% of Earth?

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1. Nordish subrace is a theory
2. What makes someone "nordish" seems to change with the wind. I mean basically as soon as somebody has blonde hair OR red hair OR blue eyes then you say "that's nordish!" The hart you gave spoke of NORDIC not nordish btw,
3. Impact on 99% of earth???? no single group has an impact on 99% of earth. Maybe the aliens from alpha centauri sure.

All that shit is just another variation on white supremacy.

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Then you can't claim the over exaggerated 6million number, can you?

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The holocaust - "the systematic mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during World War II"
Yeah, that's a myth.
"Jews died in WWII"
That isn't.

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Communism was the creation of the Jew.

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If we use that same retard logic then Nazism was the creation of THE Catholic.

Hitler was a Catholic
Himmler was a Catholic
Mengele was a Catholic
Goebbels was a Catholic
Goring was of Jewish descent
Rudolf Hess was from a Catholic family.

yeah we know how idiots think

Post edited at 11:20 pm on Sep. 15, 2008 by jakelong

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That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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1. Nordish subrace is a theory

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2. What makes someone "nordish" seems to change with the wind. I mean basically as soon as somebody has blonde hair OR red hair OR blue eyes then you say "that's nordish!" The hart you gave spoke of NORDIC not nordish btw,

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And Nordic=Nordish.

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3. Impact on 99% of earth???? no single group has an impact on 99% of earth. Maybe the aliens from alpha centauri sure.

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All that shit is just another variation on white supremacy.

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Seems less exxagarated than "99% of impact on earth"

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Yeah they just died from those alien laser beams aimed at the good nordish and accidentally hitting the nasty jews.

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Marx was Jewish Lutheran Atheist. So Communism was the creation of THE jew, THE lutheran and THE atheist.

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Marx was born to two Jewish parents and changed his name from Mordechai to hide his Jewness.

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Hitler was a Catholic
Himmler was a Catholic
Mengele was a Catholic
Goebbels was a Catholic
Goring was of Jewish descent
Rudolf Hess was from a Catholic family.

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Hitler: I am going to become very religious
Himmler: But Fürher, you're already very religious
Hitler: ah but my name is already being muttered in the
prayers of the Arabs and the Moroccans

A few more quotes by Hitler:

"We have no sort of use for a fairy story invented by the Jews."

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity."

"Whether it's the sayings of the Old Testament or the New, or just the sayings of Jesus, it's all the same old Jewish swindle."

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"