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Replies: 22Last Post Aug. 29, 2008 1:35pm by The Last Magister
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Quote: from wolverineh8ter at 9:35 pm on Aug. 28, 2008

*waits for you to back up your opinion with fact*

Here it is; every president fucks up. Every. Single. One. But Bush and Clinton both fucked up big time, and I can't wait for Obama to uphold the trend.

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Fail.

When everyone voted for Bush and he won and failed tremendously, I stood at the sidelines...crying.

I bet you voted for him, didn't you?

And you do realize that if McCain wins, he will only make worse the things that Bush already destroyed?

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 12:11 am on Aug. 29, 2008

Quote: from wolverineh8ter at 9:35 pm on Aug. 28, 2008

*waits for you to back up your opinion with fact*

Here it is; every president fucks up. Every. Single. One. But Bush and Clinton both fucked up big time, and I can't wait for Obama to uphold the trend.

Clinton didn't fuck up, you douche. He created millions of jobs, helped raise the average income of the middle class, and improved our country's economy drastically.

And this is our problem. Lack of fucking education.

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 1:11 am on Aug. 29, 2008

Here it is; every president fucks up. Every. Single. One. But Bush and Clinton both fucked up big time, and I can't wait for Obama to uphold the trend.

That is not fact, you are backing yourself up with more opinions.  But assuming that your statements are fact, when they clearly aren't: You are still committing the logical fallacy of Affirming the consequent. (draws a conclusion from premises that do not support that conclusion by assuming Q implies P)

Now humor me:  I know that George Bush wasn't a popular president, and I will give you that he, using your previously stated operational definition: "fucked up."  But please tell me how you view Clinton did, besides receiving fellatio from another woman in office, which in no way shape or form constitutes a complete failure for a presidency.

Post edited at 10:18 am on Aug. 29, 2008 by wOlF

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Quote: from MASHdebate at 9:58 pm on Aug. 28, 2008

all politicians say what you want to hear. the ones who believe all obama says is true such as getting rid of foriegn oil in ten years **spoiler** you'll b disappointed.
agree..McCain/Obama can say all the positive things they want..but in the end it is all "talk" unless they actually keep their word if one becomes President.

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Quote: from EmilyAnn at 8:59 am on Aug. 29, 2008

Quote: from TheLastMagister at 12:11 am on Aug. 29, 2008

Quote: from wolverineh8ter at 9:35 pm on Aug. 28, 2008

*waits for you to back up your opinion with fact*
 
 Here it is; every president fucks up. Every. Single. One. But Bush and Clinton both fucked up big time, and I can't wait for Obama to uphold the trend.

Clinton didn't fuck up, you douche. He created millions of jobs, helped raise the average income of the middle class, and improved our country's economy drastically.

And this is our problem. Lack of fucking education.


Your right, lack of an education is the reason. Such as maybe your lack of knowledge that Clinton refused to take any counter measures when he first recieved terrorist threats, calling them empty threats, even after they unsuccessfully attempted to blow up the World Trade Center via truck bombs in the basement.

Or maybe I shall say how Clinton also COST millions of people their jobs. Did you know that he liquidated our steel industry(biggest export at the time) to pull us out of debt? Yeah, so he pulled us out of debt for the time, but fucked us over in the long run, as all his policies did.

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oops... someone is a dumbass. i suppose you are libertarian who just wants ron paul to make everything better by eliminating the federal government? fail.

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Quote: from andz53 at 1:32 pm on Aug. 29, 2008

oops... someone is a dumbass. i suppose you are libertarian who just wants ron paul to make everything better by eliminating the federal government? fail.

I see, you sound like a teenage liberal who claims to be a "political activist" and thinks they know how the world works by going on Wikipedia and reading the first few sentences written by someone else. The dead giveaway is the use of this type of language when it is not needed and your oversimplification of an entire party's view.

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