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In 1997, Obama voted against SB 230, which would have turned doctors into felons by banning so-called partial-birth abortion, & against a 2000 bill banning state funding. Although these bills included an exception to save the life of the mother, they didn't include anything about abortions necessary to protect the health of the mother. The legislation defined a fetus as a person, & could have criminalized virtually all abortion.

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That is a bad thing, it would pretty much be opressing the nation into being an incubator. The population and poverty is bad enough, no reason to add to it by having children raising children because they made a mistake.

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE    
  meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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  The body of the child isn't the same as HER body.

  Keep failing at science and logic like a good little tard though.

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 Okay, she is just seperating it from her body.  It can live outside if it tries really hard.

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So if a woman has an abortion at 8 weeks, the fetus can survive outside of her body "if it fights really hard?"

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She is merely seperating what is, at its core, a parasite in her body feeding off of her nutrients.

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE
   meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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  The body of the child isn't the same as HER body.    

  Keep failing at science and logic like a good little tard though.

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  Okay, she is just seperating it from her body. It can live outside if it tries really hard.

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 Murdering a separate and uniqude human is murder, no matter how old that human is.

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If it can't think its fair game IMO

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There has been proof that babies have brain activity in the early stages of pregnancy. Get your facts straight.

But still knowing this, I am pro choice.

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We are all a little weird, and life's a little weird,
And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

Then again morons aren't capable of understanding the difference between the scenarios.

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE      
    meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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   The body of the child isn't the same as HER body.

   Keep failing at science and logic like a good little tard though.

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  Okay, she is just seperating it from her body.  It can live outside if it tries really hard.

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  Murdering a separate and uniqude human is murder, no matter how old that human is.

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 If it can't think its fair game IMO

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There has been proof that babies have brain activity in the early stages of pregnancy. Get your facts straight.

But still knowing this, I am pro choice.

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unconscious brain activity =/= thinking

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE    
  meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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so it fair for the baby not have a life while the irresponsible whore get too?

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 Not all women who get any type of abortion are " irresponsible whores".

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Just 90+% of them are?

As I don't think that rape and medical emergancies total up to 10% of abortions.

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE
   meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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  The body of the child isn't the same as HER body.    

  Keep failing at science and logic like a good little tard though.

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  Okay, she is just seperating it from her body. It can live outside if it tries really hard.

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 Murdering a separate and uniqude human is murder, no matter how old that human is.

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If it can't think its fair game IMO

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So we're able to prove whether or not it's conscious?

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE
   meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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  The body of the child isn't the same as HER body.    

  Keep failing at science and logic like a good little tard though.

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  Okay, she is just seperating it from her body. It can live outside if it tries really hard.

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 So if a woman has an abortion at 8 weeks, the fetus can survive outside of her body "if it fights really hard?"

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She is merely seperating what is, at its core, a parasite in her body feeding off of her nutrients.

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That's true, I was just trying to say what they would respond to me.

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And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

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Dumb sluts murdering their children isn't the same thing as a rape victim or a woman facing a medical emergency.

Then again morons aren't capable of understanding the difference between the scenarios.

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Then again morons aren't capable of reading.

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE
   meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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so it fair for the baby not have a life while the irresponsible whore get too?

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  Not all women who get any type of abortion are " irresponsible whores".

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 Just 90+% of them are?  

 As I don't think that rape and medical emergancies total up to 10% of abortions.

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So you're just going to say "Fuck you, you 10% who are raped/get a one in a million chance of going through the birth control, you don't get to have an abortion because if you do, everybody else will"?

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No he is probably one of those people who is ant abortion, unless it's rape.


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And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

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Problem, I do not see?

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  Do you know that process of partial birth abortion?

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Yes I do know the process of partial birth abortion.
  A person has a right to choose the fate of their unborn child, regardless of whether the child is aborted at 1 month pregnant or 8 months pregnant.

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 Murdering your own children is a common sport between feminists to see who can rack up the most dead bodies.

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Just fucking hilarious.

You can't honestly tell me that you think if a woman is raped, and has to carry a child, that she doesn't have the right to get it aborted, ESPECIALLY if she won't be able to survive the birth?
What about if neither her nor the baby are going to survive the birth, and she knows that? Is she still not allowed to abort the child because it has fingernails?

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Funny that morons cannot read, as I've been pretty clear about exceptions for rape and medical emergencies many times.  Still, you wouldn't want that to get in the way of you trying to get the high score right?

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whoisabs i'm not sure
Guess who's back?

Then again morons aren't capable of understanding the difference between the scenarios.

I'm pretty sure we can all understand the difference between the scenarios. But you can't understand how not to be an asshole.

Post edited at 9:59 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 by missmadejavu

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We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

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man, he's for pro-CHOICE
   meaning that he believes that a woman should decide what she wants to do because its HER body, and no one else's...the government shouldnt tell her what to do

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so it fair for the baby not have a life while the irresponsible whore get too?

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  Not all women who get any type of abortion are " irresponsible whores".

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 Just 90+% of them are?  

 As I don't think that rape and medical emergancies total up to 10% of abortions.

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So you're just going to say "Fuck you, you 10% who are raped/get a one in a million chance of going through the birth control, you don't get to have an abortion because if you do, everybody else will"?

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Looks like someone is just out to get their high score instead of having any ability to read.

Exceptions for the extremely rare cases of rape and medical emergencies are not the same as sluts just murdering their children for the high score.

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Problem, I do not see?

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   Do you know that process of partial birth abortion?

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Yes I do know the process of partial birth abortion.    
  A person has a right to choose the fate of their unborn child, regardless of whether the child is aborted at 1 month pregnant or 8 months pregnant.

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  Murdering your own children is a common sport between feminists to see who can rack up the most dead bodies.

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Just fucking hilarious.  

 You can't honestly tell me that you think if a woman is raped, and has to carry a child, that she doesn't have the right to get it aborted, ESPECIALLY if she won't be able to survive the birth?  
 What about if neither her nor the baby are going to survive the birth, and she knows that?  Is she still not allowed to abort the child because it has fingernails?

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Funny that morons cannot read, as I've been pretty clear about exceptions for rape and medical emergencies many times. Still, you wouldn't want that to get in the way of you trying to get the high score right?

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IF YOU SUPPORT ABORTION IN ANY CASE AT ALL THEN YOU SUPPORT IT 100% YOU CAN'T JUST SUPPORT IT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS!

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And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours,
We join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.

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Problem, I do not see?

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   Do you know that process of partial birth abortion?

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Yes I do know the process of partial birth abortion.    
  A person has a right to choose the fate of their unborn child, regardless of whether the child is aborted at 1 month pregnant or 8 months pregnant.

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  Murdering your own children is a common sport between feminists to see who can rack up the most dead bodies.

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Just fucking hilarious.  

 You can't honestly tell me that you think if a woman is raped, and has to carry a child, that she doesn't have the right to get it aborted, ESPECIALLY if she won't be able to survive the birth?  
 What about if neither her nor the baby are going to survive the birth, and she knows that?  Is she still not allowed to abort the child because it has fingernails?

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Funny that morons cannot read, as I've been pretty clear about exceptions for rape and medical emergencies many times. Still, you wouldn't want that to get in the way of you trying to get the high score right?

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You cannot simply exclude rape and medical emergencies.  If you say you are excluding said situations, that means you are pro-choice.

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