God can exist even if the Bible not true.

Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it.  If you don't believe in God, say why.  Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent.

But I certainly will attack the bible and religion. :)

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The Bible is real. It's a fucking book. It doesn't mean it's true.

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Way to completely miss the point.

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It would make God a fairy tale.

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Way to completely miss the point.

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When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it.

God can exist even if the Bible not true.

Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it. If you don't believe in God, say why. Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent.

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You do realize these people are bashing the Christian God and denying the existence of the Christian God no?

I agree that if the Bible was a total load of bullshit that it would not effect the existence of other Gods.

But what you fail to realize is that these people aren't generally talking about God in all forms. They are specifically attacking the Biblical God.

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When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it.

God can exist even if the Bible not true.

Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it.  If you don't believe in God, say why.  Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent.

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The Bible is the only real "evidence" put forward for God's (Jehovah's) existence. No refutation beyond the Bible is necessary. If someone gives you a fake I.D. to prove a man's existence, why should you argue the point beyond proving the I.D. fake? Sure, the man could still exist. But if the only evidence for him is the I.D., what exactly does that chance matter?

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Quote: from newman at 10:08 pm on Aug. 29, 2008

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When atheists argue against the existence of God and bash the Bible while doing it.  

 God can exist even if the Bible not true.  

 Unless the argument is specifically about the Bible and religion, I don't want to hear about it. If you don't believe in God, say why. Don't say "the Bible isn't real," because that doesn't make God non-existent.

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The Bible is the only real "evidence" put forward for God's (Jehovah's) existence. No refutation beyond the Bible is necessary. If someone gives you a fake I.D. to prove a man's existence, why should you argue the point beyond proving the I.D. fake? Sure, the man could still exist. But if the only evidence for him is the I.D., what exactly does that chance matter?

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You stated that is was Jehovah, specifically. Other people on the forum take it to be an argument against Generic God(s) (most famously, Moridin).

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You stated that is was Jehovah, specifically. Other people on the forum take it to be an argument against Generic God(s) (most famously, Moridin).

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Nobody who has any idea what they're talking about thinks an argument based on the Bible is an argument against any god but Jehovah. Christianity is the significant beast in (most of) our culture(s). When you talk of "God," whether generic or not, almost everyone thinks Jehovah, whether they know it or not. People think they're arguing against "gods" when they're actually arguing against Jehovah.

So there for when people disgard the bible they then disgard any true proff of gods presence (which most people need to believe) those that dont need proff to believe in God are truely believers...

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