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Quote: from marshmellowman at 8:54 am on Aug. 30, 2008

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One of? I've never made any 9/11 jokes.

  That aside, America died when it gave away virtually all of the freedoms of privacy after 9/11 when they tightened security so much, including the Patriot Act.


Read the op, you can't die twice, even if you're a country.

How does the OP have anything to do with what I said.

America died in 2001, not 2008, it just doesn't exist now. Hence it has only died once. I never said anything about dying twice.


Then I guess I'm living in New Russia.

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Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.

The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.

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Quote: from barnabas at 8:54 am on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.
Oh  would you people stop with these mysterious posts that don't explain wtf you're talking about

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america didnt die in 2001, 2008 or that other year

2010 ok

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Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.

The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.

Bearsy:

In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.

Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.

The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.

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Quote: from barnabas at 9:11 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.
 

 The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.

Bearsy:  

In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.

Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.  

The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.


who cares

poor people that's who

when sarah palin becomes president, everyone will be fucked. it'll be like nazi germany except hotter

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Quote: from barnabas at 9:11 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.
 

 The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.

Bearsy:  

In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.

Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.  

The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.


Oh no

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Isn't gas expensive everywhere though

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:56 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:53 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:48 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:46 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:36 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

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Isn't it -1913?
wut

   

  This:    

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve    

  They're always screwing things up.


Now what do you have against the federal reserve?

 

 *goes out and buys an ice cream*  

 THREE DOLLARS!?  

 They're robbing us.     Why can't you buy an ice cream for a dime anymore?


But we get paid a lot more now. And we have cool movies that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make etc etc.  

It's wonderful.


That means that if you started saving in the 1940s, you will have lost a LOT of money by now.  Even at this point, the money in your savings account right now is worth less every second.  We're creating new money to pay for things we obviously can't afford.  We owe China like half our country and we're paying for a war.  Where do you think it's coming from?  We don't have any money.  We're trillions in the hole!  So we'll just make some from nothing and fill the oceans and valleys with stacks of meaningless green paper to shut our creditors mouths.  Then you'll have a 10,000 in the bank and a slice of bread will cost twice your life savings.  The Fed is a big part of that.  Maybe it won't get that bad, but it certainly will if it's in the Fed's best interests.  They don't care about us.  The entire banking industry is out for a profit!

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 11:14 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 9:11 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.

  The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


 

 precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.  

 Bearsy:

 In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.  

 Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.

 The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.


Oh no

=0

Isn't gas expensive everywhere though


just an example of inflation. maybe a non finite resource would be a better bet.

do you remember how cheap milk was when you were a kid? now it is 3+ dollars a gallon.

When there is nothing to back up your money in circulation, bad things happen (ie the great depression). it is to unstable.

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Quote: from shadowpool at 9:16 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:56 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:53 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:48 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:46 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:36 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:35 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Isn't it -1913?
wut

   This:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve

   They're always screwing things up.


Now what do  you have against the federal reserve?

  *goes out and buys an ice cream*

  THREE DOLLARS!?

  They're robbing us. Why can't you buy an ice cream for a dime anymore?


But we get paid a lot more now. And we have cool movies that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make etc etc.

 It's wonderful.


That means that if you started saving in the 1940s, you will have lost a LOT of money by now. Even at this point, the money in your savings account right now is worth less every second. We're creating new money to pay for things we obviously can't afford. We owe China like half our country and we're paying for a war. Where do you think it's coming from? We don't have any money. We're trillions in the hole! So we'll just make some from nothing and fill the oceans and valleys with stacks of meaningless green paper to shut our creditors mouths. Then you'll have a 10,000 in the bank and a slice of bread will cost twice your life savings. The Fed is a big part of that. Maybe it won't get that bad, but it certainly will if it's in the Fed's best interests. They don't care about us. The entire banking industry is out for a profit!


meh

you'll love 2008 america in about 2 years. just wait until you live in a concentration camp

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Quote: from shadowpool at 9:16 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:56 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:53 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:48 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:46 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 12:36 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 8:35 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Isn't it -1913?
wut

   This:

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve

   They're always screwing things up.


Now what do  you have against the federal reserve?

  *goes out and buys an ice cream*

  THREE DOLLARS!?

  They're robbing us. Why can't you buy an ice cream for a dime anymore?


But we get paid a lot more now. And we have cool movies that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make etc etc.

 It's wonderful.


That means that if you started saving in the 1940s, you will have lost a LOT of money by now. Even at this point, the money in your savings account right now is worth less every second. We're creating new money to pay for things we obviously can't afford. We owe China like half our country and we're paying for a war. Where do you think it's coming from? We don't have any money. We're trillions in the hole! So we'll just make some from nothing and fill the oceans and valleys with stacks of meaningless green paper to shut our creditors mouths. Then you'll have a 10,000 in the bank and a slice of bread will cost twice your life savings. The Fed is a big part of that. Maybe it won't get that bad, but it certainly will if it's in the Fed's best interests. They don't care about us. The entire banking industry is out for a profit!


Oh I forgot about that

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Why do you say that?

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Quote: from Permious at 11:12 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 9:11 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.

  The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


 

 precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.  

 Bearsy:

 In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.  

 Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.

 The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.


who cares

poor people that's who

when sarah palin becomes president, everyone will be fucked. it'll be like nazi germany except hotter


anyone who is an american should care, because their money is worth less than it was a year ago, and it will be worth less in 2009 too.

our money system is completely out of whack.

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come, buy and eat. Come, buy wine and milk without money and
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Quote: from barnabas at 9:19 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Permious at 11:12 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 9:11 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.
   

  The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


  precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.

  Bearsy:    

  In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.

  Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.    

  The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.


 

 who cares  

 poor people that's who  

 when sarah palin becomes president, everyone will be fucked. it'll be like nazi germany except hotter


anyone who is an american should care, because their money is worth less than it was a year ago, and it will be worth less in 2009 too.

our money system is completely out of whack.


whatever it wont even matter once mccain dies and hitler 2 is in power

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Quote: from barnabas at 9:17 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 11:14 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 9:11 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from shadowpool at 10:56 am on Aug. 30, 2008

Quote: from barnabas at 12:54 pm on Aug. 30, 2008

inflation my friend. Inflation.
   

  The Fed creating money so we can pay people with money we don't have.


  precisely. stupid federal reserve banks. stupid department of treasury. stupid currency that is not backed up by anything.

  Bearsy:    

  In 1913 the Federal Reserve bank and the treasury department (among otherpeople) decided to end the system of backing paper money with gold money.

  Prior to that, every dollar in circulation in the Us had a gold dollar to match it in the federal reserve banks. At any point in time you could take a one dollar bill to a bank and demand a dollars worth of gold. this ovbiously kept currency circulation low.    

  The US dollar is now backed by nothing more than the "reputation" of the American economy. So..when the us economy does poorly,the dollar deflates, and prices inflate. Which is why currently a us dollar is worth only half a british pound, and gas is 3.61 a gallon.


Oh no  

 =0  

 Isn't gas expensive everywhere though


just an example of inflation. maybe a non finite resource would be a better bet.

do you remember how cheap milk was when you were a kid? now it is 3+ dollars a gallon.  

When there is nothing to back up your money in circulation, bad things happen (ie the great depression). it is to unstable.


I would not be excited about another great depression, at all.

I want there to be some really bad war where everyone is getting  drafted left and right though so we can have a big hippie  movement and feel like it's not just us being whiney.

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