As one who holds Darwin's Theory of Evolution in high regard, I am compelled to consider Cancer as some what of a good thing for humanity and the planet. It cuts down the numbers of humans daily; something which should be praised and nothing otherwise. As of July 2007, the world population exceeds 6,602,224,175. Just think of how many bloody people that is?!!! This planet and it's resources should not be exposed to such a stress. It is estimated the earth should support no more than 1 million homosapiens. Currently humanity exists at a number greater than 660 times that! It's just plain selfish.

WE have decimated earths natural balance in environment and number of species of animals. Perhaps cancer is G-d's way (or the natural equilibriums way) of leveling the world to as it should be.

If there weren't so many people, how could epidemics such as global warming (don't care whether you believe in it or not), a large number of rapid extinctions or global famine occur? The earth and its inhabitants would not be in the mess it's in!!! Existing in such great numbers, we are stripping other organisms the right to life! We have corrupted the balance!

Billions is spent on a cure for the various cancers, which, is seemingly more and more impossible. As some might argue, there has been some improvement for some types of cancers, but how much and for how many? This money could be used to help raise third world countries or combat world hunger (as previously said) and give desperate nations clean drinking water.

Let's face it, all those biotech companies who are out there trying to cure cancer are really only in existence to make money. It is what drives their industry and if you argue otherwise you are being naive.
Conversely that money could be used to research painkillers specifically to combat cancer which is non addictive and have no known side effects. Wouldn't it be better to go out peacefully than waste time trying to cure an incurably painful and desperate condition.

Discuss.

I'm bored and want a good argument! Back up any responses please!

P.S. I do not say I DO think cancer is a good thing. In fact I am quite opposed to it! I really think this will be a great argument though! :)

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I honestly believe that leaving diseases such as AIDS or HIV uncured could make us better as a society. Yes, by all means, leave controls in place so that it does not spread like wildfire. But it killing a few million people means nothing,w hen you consider the rate that the world is still growing at.

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Thank god. you're getting rid of that other chick's lame posts.

I honestly believe that leaving diseases such as AIDS or HIV uncured could make us better as a society. Yes, by all means, leave controls in place so that it does not spread like wildfire. But it killing a few million people means nothing,w hen you consider the rate that the world is still growing at.

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I completely agree with you in some respects. I think HIV/AIDS is a terrible epidemic, but I still wonder if not the world (as a whole, i.e. exclusive of humanity) would be better without it. So many species of organisms would be alive today, the air and world in general would be cleaner and perhaps humanity would prosper, albiet in a different manner.

In addition the Thylacine (Tas. Devil) would still be alive!   Had to draw attention to the fact we are both Aussies!

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I completely agree with you in some respects. I think HIV/AIDS is a terrible epidemic, but I still wonder if not the world (as a whole, i.e. exclusive of humanity) would be better without it. So many species of organisms would be alive today, the air and world in general would be cleaner and perhaps humanity would prosper, albiet in a different manner.  

In addition the Thylacine (Tas. Devil) would still be alive! Had to draw attention to the fact we are both Aussies!

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Woot.

I actually hate disease, because I just hate seeing children suffer But at the same time, being awfully pragmatic about it, it IS cutting down the population and culling them, in a sense, to the healthy ones with the good genes.

And while I agree that some moderation is in order, so the entire world doesn't explode or run out of the moronic substance that is humanity, the world would definitely be better off with a few less people.

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He would bring a greta angle to this debate!!!

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Darn. We need more "ZOMG U 2 R SOOOOOOOOO MEAN!!!!!!!11!11!!!1!!" people. It's so much more fun.

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"It is estimated the earth should support no more than 1 million homosapiens"

originate?

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Billions is spent on a cure for the various cancers, which, is seemingly more and more impossible. As some might argue, there has been some improvement for some types of cancers, but how much and for how many? This money could be used to help raise third world countries or combat world hunger (as previously said) and give desperate nations clean drinking water.

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But why? Impoverished conditions, world hunger, and dirty drinking water are

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a good thing for humanity and the planet. It cuts down the numbers of humans daily; something which should be praised and nothing otherwise. As of July 2007, the world population exceeds 6,602,224,175. Just think of how many bloody people that is?!!! This planet and it's resources should not be exposed to such a stress. It is estimated the earth should support no more than 1 million homosapiens. Currently humanity exists at a number greater than 660 times that! It's just plain selfish.

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I do, however, think a lot about sterilization. Think about it-- there are so many unwanted children up for adoption that just spend the first 18 years of their lives draining the system. If more people were sterile, those kids would get adopted, and it would cut down on overpopulation.

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AIDS is a disease that spreads purely through 'fools' as put, as AIDS is a result of you-know-what. While there are innocent victims to AIDS, they are the effect of a cause created by some perpetrator before them. Why work on a cure? Why care? Its a very illogical act isn't it? Especially when the disease is incurable, would'nt it be better to put them down instead of prolonging their life, which would only be temporary and end up in an untimely death?

To be honest, everything that is happening now is a reaction to what civilization has done to the planet. We are overpopulating the EArth, and overusing its reources, and as a result all the side effects begin to come in as greed, pride and bla bla bla come into play in an overpopulated world filled with selfish creatures. As a result, you have 'issues', right?

Cancer is probably nature's way of corrective action, a reaction to the processing of food, the change in environment, alteration of genes, whatever the cause.  

To put this straight in a completely logical argument - A large portion of the population is dispensable, as we are straining the very planet we are living on beyond its capacity. Perhaps the numbers may not be the cause, but the more you have, the more the idiots who would appear in them as well to destroy the world. And guess what? were just so damn good at multiplying.

In a parallel universe, I might understand what Hitler was probably thinking ROFL. . .  

Disclaimer: In no means do I support that cancer is good and should kill everyone it affects. It is only looking from a logical point of view geared towards the survival and evolution of civilization.

Post edited at 7:57 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 by Uruz 7

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Sterilization though (and that one-child thing China had going), that's appealing.

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Billions is spent on a cure for the various cancers, which, is seemingly more and more impossible. As some might argue, there has been some improvement for some types of cancers, but how much and for how many? This money could be used to help raise third world countries or combat world hunger (as previously said) and give desperate nations clean drinking water.

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But why? Impoverished conditions, world hunger, and dirty drinking water are

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a good thing for humanity and the planet. It cuts down the numbers of humans daily; something which should be praised and nothing otherwise. As of July 2007, the world population exceeds 6,602,224,175. Just think of how many bloody people that is?!!! This planet and it's resources should not be exposed to such a stress. It is estimated the earth should support no more than 1 million homosapiens. Currently humanity exists at a number greater than 660 times that! It's just plain selfish.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. If you want the human population of the earth reduced AND believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution, why would you help keep uneducated, unwealthy people alive with money that could be spent saving the lives of those who could actually help society? Or better yet, that could be spent helping to reverse the effects that humanity has had upon the world?

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Billions is spent on a cure for the various cancers, which, is seemingly more and more impossible. As some might argue, there has been some improvement for some types of cancers, but how much and for how many? This money could be used to help raise third world countries or combat world hunger (as previously said) and give desperate nations clean drinking water.

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 But why? Impoverished conditions, world hunger, and dirty drinking water are

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a good thing for humanity and the planet. It cuts down the numbers of humans daily; something which should be praised and nothing otherwise. As of July 2007, the world population exceeds 6,602,224,175. Just think of how many bloody people that is?!!! This planet and it's resources should not be exposed to such a stress. It is estimated the earth should support no more than 1 million homosapiens. Currently humanity exists at a number greater than 660 times that! It's just plain selfish.

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This is exactly what I was thinking. If you want the human population of the earth reduced AND believe in Darwin's Theory of Evolution, why would you help keep uneducated, unwealthy people alive with money that could be spent saving the lives of those who could actually help society? Or better yet, that could be spent helping to reverse the effects that humanity has had upon the world?

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Lets face it, the world is doomed. There IS no going back and so no sense spending time contemplating how we could go back as more and more people are born and more and more other species perish.

However I find your first proposal interesting :P Didn't think of that last night.

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