Gender is man/woman/other/both.  Gender is how we see ourselves.

Sex is male/female/intersex.  It is biological, and can be changed.

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parts don't make the person, the mind does.

Post edited at 3:53 pm on Aug. 31, 2008 by Charolastra

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y'all nukhuhs that be aight wit dat bullshiiit, just hit us up mang

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it's really easy to say parts make the man or woman but that doesn't count intersexed people (an occurrence which is surprisingly common). i will consider a person man or woman (or whatever in between) by what that individual considers him/?/herself to be. my transmen friends are men to me, regardless of being pre- or post-op (or even pre-hormonal therapy).

parts don't make the person, the mind does.

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Unfortunately, sex is a party of (genetic) parts, not personality.

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Quote: from charolastra at 6:52 pm on Aug. 31, 2008

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it's really easy to say parts make the man or woman but that doesn't count intersexed people (an occurrence which is surprisingly common). i will consider a person man or woman (or whatever in between) by what that individual considers him/?/herself to be. my transmen friends are men to me, regardless of being pre- or post-op (or even pre-hormonal therapy).  

 parts don't make the person, the mind does.

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Unfortunately, sex is a party of (genetic) parts, not personality.

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sigh, i understand sex... i feel like gender can end up being a lot more important to a person, especially if the person is born with parts that correctly match with their gender. i respect the person's wishes a lot more than what biology told them to be

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y'all nukhuhs that be aight wit dat bullshiiit, just hit us up mang

But I believe that gender is determined by each individual. You are what you believe you are and what you identify as.

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Punk rock died when the first kid said, "Punk's not dead."

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Personally I believe whatever pair of chromosomes it is in their DNA.

You can actually have XX chromosomes at birth, but have had too much testosterone produced in the first 6weeks of pregnancy and this makes your body appear as a man. Something like that. I forget the details.

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I agree with this i think that if you were born a man then you are still a man even if you have been surgically changed.