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Replies: 9Last Post July 23 4:52am by Its Bearsy Bitch
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Every time I turn around blacks are keep saying vote this year and vote for Obama. Personally I couldn't careless about him. I feel they are pushing us to vote for him because he's black. People are so focused on his race it makes me sick. We all say race doesn't matter but why when it comes to something such as becoming president- we aren't being color blind to it.

Beside he's only 1/2 Black...

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Quote: from browneyes at 4:19 am on July 23, 2008

Every time I turn around blacks are keep saying vote this year and vote for Obama. Personally I couldn't careless about him. I feel they are pushing us to vote for him because he's black. People are so focused on his race it makes me sick. We all say race doesn't matter but why when it comes to something such as becoming president- we aren't being color blind to it.

 Beside he's only 1/2 Black...


This is a hypocritical statement given the above paragraph.



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I know i hate them.

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 7:21 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from browneyes at 4:19 am on July 23, 2008

Every time I turn around blacks are keep saying vote this year and vote for Obama. Personally I couldn't careless about him. I feel they are pushing us to vote for him because he's black. People are so focused on his race it makes me sick. We all say race doesn't matter but why when it comes to something such as becoming president- we aren't being color blind to it.  

  Beside he's only 1/2 Black...


This is a hypocritical statement given the above paragraph.  


we arent being color blind in this situation. who the hell cares if he black or white?

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Quote: from browneyes at 4:27 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 7:21 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from browneyes at 4:19 am on July 23, 2008

Every time I turn around blacks are keep saying vote this year and vote for Obama. Personally I couldn't careless about him. I feel they are pushing us to vote for him because he's black. People are so focused on his race it makes me sick. We all say race doesn't matter but why when it comes to something such as becoming president- we aren't being color blind to it.    

   Beside he's only 1/2 Black...


 

 This is a hypocritical statement given the above paragraph.    

 


 

we arent being color blind in this situation. who the hell cares if he black or white?


You do. You wouldn't have said that if you didn't, it's not like anyone asked you, "Hey are you sure he's ALL black? Because if he's got any white in him, I need to know."

Post edited at 4:29 am on July 23, 2008 by Its Bearsy Bitch

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 7:28 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from browneyes at 4:27 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 7:21 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from browneyes at 4:19 am on July 23, 2008

Every time I turn around blacks are keep saying vote this year and vote for Obama. Personally I couldn't careless about him. I feel they are pushing us to vote for him because he's black. People are so focused on his race it makes me sick. We all say race doesn't matter but why when it comes to something such as becoming president- we aren't being color blind to it.

Beside he's only 1/2 Black...


This is a hypocritical statement given the above paragraph.


we arent being color blind in this situation. who the hell cares if he black or white?


You do. You wouldn't have said that if you didn't, it's not like anyone asked you, "Hey are you sure he's ALL black? Because if he's got any white in him, I need to know."


nevermind...you dont get where im coming from.

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 4:21 am on July 23, 2008

This is a hypocritical statement given the above paragraph.


It's not exactly hypocritical when you take into account the impact of the whole one drop rule has had on the popular idea of what race is.  It'd clearly be just as accurate to label Obama white as it would be black, however people are inclined to disagree because of the impact on that.

Moreover, when you have Obama identifying himself as black more than white, as well as having some background in the "black community," considering Obama to be black works for the most part, and it is why people do consider him black instead of mixed.


As for the OP, it's interesting how many people will attack whites for voting for McCain simply because McCain is white but not attack the blacks who vote for Obama simply because he's black.  Moreover, the percentage of blacks voting for Obama is far higher than the percentage of whites voting for McCain, which is an indirect indication of this.

Then again, people will often tell you that it's okay because blacks aren't the majority, blacks don't have the "power" whites do, etc., however, I personally see it as racism all the same.


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Quote: from Bud2400 at 4:34 am on July 23, 2008

Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 4:21 am on July 23, 2008

This is a hypocritical statement given the above paragraph.
 

 
It's not exactly hypocritical when you take into account the impact of the whole one drop rule has had on the popular idea of what race is.  It'd clearly be just as accurate to label Obama white as it would be black, however people are inclined to disagree because of the impact on that.  

Moreover, when you have Obama identifying himself as black more than white, as well as having some background in the "black community," considering Obama to be black works for the most part, and it is why people do consider him black instead of mixed.  

 
As for the OP, it's interesting how many people will attack whites for voting for McCain simply because McCain is white but not attack the blacks who vote for Obama simply because he's black.  Moreover, the percentage of blacks voting for Obama is far higher than the percentage of whites voting for McCain, which is an indirect indication of this.  

Then again, people will often tell you that it's okay because blacks aren't the majority, blacks don't have the "power" whites do, etc., however, I personally see it as racism all the same.


They consider him black instead of mixed because of his skin pigment. "Mixed" isn't a race after all.

I do believe black people were Democrats before this election too. Compare the percentage of black people who voted for Kerry vs the percentage of white people who voted for Bush in the last election.

I do agree too much focus has been on race in this election though.

Post edited at 4:41 am on July 23, 2008 by Its Bearsy Bitch

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Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 4:39 am on July 23, 2008

They consider him black instead of mixed because of his skin pigment. "Mixed" isn't a race after all.

I'd imagine his skin tone has a great deal to do with it and Obama's own personal self identification as well.

And you're reading things far too literally if you think that I said that mixed is a single "race." Mixed is obviously the state of being composed of more than one race (and recently enough to be able to notice). Two mixed people can potentially look nothing alike at all.


I do believe black people were Democrats before this election too. Compare the percentage of black people who voted for Kerry vs the percentage who voted for Bush in the last election.

That's a fair assessment, however, I'd also watch who's endorsing Obama. I find many examples (at my university in particular) of organizations like the Black Student Organization and African Student Organization endorsing only black candidates, irregardless of what their actual positions are.  Given the name and purpose of the organizations, it does not surprise me (though do remember there's no white equivalent for these things). Other minorities seem to work similarly. I'd imagine that this is a significant factor as well.


I do agree too much focus has been on race in this election though.

It's bound to happen. Hopefully a few more of these kinds of elections and possible presidencies would diminish the importance of race as a whole, though I kinda doubt it.

Post edited at 4:50 am on July 23, 2008 by Bud2400


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Both of them are milking the race factor I guess... they both go to these Hispanic things and start saying nice things about Hispanics all of the sudden they weren't saying before!



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