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Is it any more unkind than reading your children fairy tales from a young age or talking about Santa Claus at Christmas?

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I don't know of anyone who leads their children to believe mystical creatures are actually real and that their children have a vested real-world interest in their relation to them.

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"Hé! Donne-moi mon cadeau et on jasera après! Gros poilu!" - Asymptote

when a child is old enouph it can find its own way in life and its own trueth.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 4:31 pm on July 23, 2008

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Is it any more unkind than reading your children fairy tales from a young age or talking about Santa Claus at Christmas?

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I don't know of anyone who leads their children to believe mystical creatures are actually real and that their children have a vested real-world interest in their relation to them.

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Santa Claus?

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You bring a child 0n your beliefs since you are the perent and you teach them what you know in life...

when a child is old enouph it can find its own way in life and its own trueth.

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Now, if anyone's going to suggest that a parent should just stop having beliefs or practicing their beliefs because they're around impressionable children, you seriously need a slap.

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Quote: from Kitty Kiska at 11:03 pm on July 24, 2008

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You bring a child 0n your beliefs since you are the perent and you teach them what you know in life...

when a child is old enouph it can find its own way in life and its own trueth.

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Let us hope you do not teach your child to spell.  
Telling a child the myth of Santa Claus and the teachings of religion are very different things. One day, you the parent, will tell the child that Santa is just a myth or his common sense will make him realize this. Whereas you will never tell your child that "Insert religion here" is wrong, and he will continue believing this well into his later years and possibly for the rest of his life if he does not discover his common sense.

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Oh god im sorry, i cant spell!!! oh god i need to speak better english just cos im talking to you now is that it...wow i didnt know i had to take you so seriously( jerk)
Most people that are athiest are not actualy like that because of their perents but becoause of the way the desided to go by in life...id rather give a choice then give them nothing at all

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Santa Claus?

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"I don't know of anyone who leads their children to believe mystical creatures are actually real and that their children have a vested real-world interest in their relation to them."

Did your parents actually encourage, over a long period of time, a serious belief in Santa? Mine didn't.

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Neither did mine, but there are parents who do that; are they also being unkind to their children?

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The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:49 pm on July 26, 2008

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Neither did mine, but there are parents who do that; are they also being unkind to their children?

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The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.

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In what way? In that it would be less devastating to find out that Santa Claus wasn't real or in that the stories about Santa Claus are supposedly not as scary as those of Christianity?

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 11:51 pm on July 26, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:49 pm on July 26, 2008

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Neither did mine, but there are parents who do that; are they also being unkind to their children?

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The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.

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In what way? In that it would be less devastating to find out that Santa Claus wasn't real or in that the stories about Santa Claus are supposedly not as scary as those of Christianity?

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Finding out that Santa isn't real doesn't usually invoke any kind of horror. It may bring about shock but it doesn't involve the typical mainstays that mainstream religions subscribe to: death, murder etc.

Lying (presumably) is offensive way to raise children.
Some parts of religion can be classified as lies.

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Therefore, bringing up your children with religious invoice is the same as lying to your children. Thus, it is bad.

Post edited at 6:09 am on July 27, 2008 by Takinam

Furthermore, how do you know that religions are lies?

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:21 am on July 27, 2008

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Quote: from Shaknbake at 11:51 pm on July 26, 2008

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 8:49 pm on July 26, 2008

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Neither did mine, but there are parents who do that; are they also being unkind to their children?

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The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.

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In what way? In that it would be less devastating to find out that Santa Claus wasn't real or in that the stories about Santa Claus are supposedly not as scary as those of Christianity?

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Finding out that Santa isn't real doesn't usually invoke any kind of horror. It may bring about shock but it doesn't involve the typical mainstays that mainstream religions subscribe to: death, murder etc.

Lying (presumably) is offensive way to raise children.
Some parts of religion can be classified as lies.

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Therefore, bringing up your children with religious invoice is the same as lying to your children. Thus, it is bad.

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but it not lieing to them.To lie you have to know diffrently

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Out of curiosity, which mainstream religion involves death or murder for disbelieving it?  

Furthermore, how do you know that religions are lies?

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Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.  

Therefore, at least portion of Christian religion is a lie. If your child was to absorb all such religious invoice, that child would be absorbing some fallacy even if he were to also absorb some truth.  

You would the be lying to your child.

And both Islam and Christian involve some kind of fear of death and some kind of righteous murder in the name of god. Stoning, cross crap, burning, etc.

Post edited at 6:39 am on July 27, 2008 by Takinam