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How many people beleive it's wrong to 'bring a child up religious'?
Replies: 130Last Post July 28, 2008 9:07pm by draakprinses
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Choice Votes Percent  
It is wrong to bring a child up religious 41 36%
It is not wrong to bring a child up religious 60 53%
It is more wrong than sexually abusing a child to bring them up religious 12 10%
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I think it's wrong to brainwash them.. ehmm I mean, bring them up religiously.

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No.

In the long run the child can choose for him or her self.

also, it's equally as wrong to bring them up as an atheist. Your doooing what those peple hate. forsing a belif on a child.

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Quote: from Demoiselle at 4:27 pm on July 22, 2008

I think it's wrong to brainwash them.. ehmm I mean, bring them up religiously.
As so many 'atheists'* use the term 'brainwashed' when referring to religious beliefs, it would appear that they have been the ones who have been the victims of this particular belief inducing tactic. Or maybe they have become victims of the "Stockholm syndrome", having been so long held captive by the atheist point of view.

(*those who like to bash religious beliefs)

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I find it ethically wrong to teach concepts to a person that lacks the development level to separate fact from fiction as well as understand the concept of religious faith.

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Quote: from obvious child at 6:04 pm on July 22, 2008

I find it ethically wrong to teach concepts to a person that lacks the development level to separate fact from fiction as well as understand the concept of religious faith.

By your logic, we shouldn't be reading our kids fairytales.

Sorry, not going that route.

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Quote: from osmoticdespair at 9:00 pm on July 21, 2008

I hear a lot of people (often citing Dawkins...) saying that it is wrong, even to the point of being child abuse to bring up a child in a religion.  
I find the idea a bit absurd but I wonder how common the belief is.  

Dawkins himself said that teaching children religion is actually more abusive than sexually abusing them.


Citation please?

Also, Dawkins was talking more of the concept of hell as that was what the chapter in his book was mainly about, if I remember correctly since it was a long time ago.

Post edited at 3:36 pm on July 22, 2008 by PewPew

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As long as you're not scaring the shit out of them and ordering them what to believe and what not believe by endorsing things that might be controversial it's okay. I think it's a good idea to bring up a child with a decent, basic set of morals and principles (simple things, don't steal, lie, kill, try to forgive people etc etc.), and if the way you do that is through Christianity or any other religion then fair enough. I'll happily say that as someone who doubts the existence of [a] God.

Frankly I wish there was an initiative to convert deliquent kids and chavs just to help keep them out of trouble. If that's what it takes to give violent little shits a damn conscience and a simple moral standard to their life then frankly I'd support it, even if I personally don't adhere to any faith.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:13 pm on July 22, 2008

Quote: from obvious child at 6:04 pm on July 22, 2008

I find it ethically wrong to teach concepts to a person that lacks the development level to separate fact from fiction as well as understand the concept of religious faith.
 

By your logic, we shouldn't be reading our kids fairytales.  

Sorry, not going that route.


I believed that fairytales were actually real when I was very young. But aside from that, I think he means teaching opinions as fact, since children can't distinguish opinion being passed down from their parents from proven fact passed down.I can't be sure since 'concepts' is somewhat vague.

Post edited at 3:38 pm on July 22, 2008 by PewPew

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Quote: from obvious child at 5:04 pm on July 22, 2008

I find it ethically wrong to teach concepts to a person that lacks the development level to separate fact from fiction as well as understand the concept of religious faith.
Concepts? Aren't "right" and "wrong" concepts? At what age should those ideas be introduced?
Why do you say "separate fact from fiction"? Because of your viewpoint on religion? As soon as a child is old enough to ask "why" s/he is old enough to understand even more complex concepts.

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-.- How dumb (the fact that people think it's wrong, that is). It's not wrong. It can help them, in fact, if done correctly. (Yes, there are instances where people are hurt by religion. If you argue against that, you're an idiot, as I didnt say all of them).

I, however, will not be raising my children to be religious; they will be exposed to religion, but ultimately, if they want to attend church, mandir, synagogue, temple, etc; it will be up to them, not because Ive told them to come with me.

Edit: Oh, and I clicked the last poll option.  I read it wrong. I thought it said that sexually abusing a child is more harmful than raising them religious,a nd thought "Well, no shit!"

Post edited at 4:38 pm on July 22, 2008 by orange joy

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Quote: from PewPew at 6:34 pm on July 22, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:13 pm on July 22, 2008

Quote: from obvious child at 6:04 pm on July 22, 2008

I find it ethically wrong to teach concepts to a person that lacks the development level to separate fact from fiction as well as understand the concept of religious faith.

By your logic, we shouldn't be reading our kids fairytales.

Sorry, not going that route.


I believed that fairytales were actually real when I was very young. But aside from that, I think he means teaching opinions as fact, since children can't distinguish opinion being passed down from their parents from proven fact passed down.I can't be sure since 'concepts' is somewhat vague.


Whether you teach them or not, they're going to pick up on your opinions. I mean, you could just stop having conversations until your kids hit puberty, but that's pretty boring. I'd rather have informed children, thanks.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:13 pm on July 22, 2008


By your logic, we shouldn't be reading our kids fairytales.

Sorry, not going that route.


Not quite. As long as the fairy tale is not taught as fact, then there isn't a problem.

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I think that we should bring our Children up in Relgion because we are nothing without Jesus Christ he died on the cross for us is people forgeting that? Who made us Jesus! Who give us breath? Jesus! Who gave us food? Jesus! How gave us water? Jesus! Who gave us a roof over our head? Jesus! I can keep going and going but our world wood be lost without jesus!

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Quote: from obvious child at 8:49 pm on July 22, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:13 pm on July 22, 2008

 
 By your logic, we shouldn't be reading our kids fairytales.  

 Sorry, not going that route.


 

Not quite. As long as the fairy tale is not taught as fact, then there isn't a problem.


So the first thing you do is tell the child "what I'm about to read to you is total fiction, don't take any part of it as truth"?

Post edited at 7:00 pm on July 22, 2008 by Forever Angel

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DISCLAIMER:warning, what I'm about to read to you has not been backed up by science, it is your choice whether or not you want to take it as truth

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