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How many people beleive it's wrong to 'bring a child up religious'?
Replies: 130Last Post July 28, 2008 9:07pm by draakprinses
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Choice Votes Percent  
It is wrong to bring a child up religious 41 36%
It is not wrong to bring a child up religious 60 53%
It is more wrong than sexually abusing a child to bring them up religious 12 10%
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Quote: from Shaknbake at 10:51 pm on July 26, 2008

The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.
Care to explain why you use the word 'horrible'?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:39 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Shaknbake at 10:51 pm on July 26, 2008

The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.
Care to explain why you use the word 'horrible'?

Lying to your children is horrible.


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Quote: from Takinam at 2:48 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:39 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Shaknbake at 10:51 pm on July 26, 2008

The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.
Care to explain why you use the word 'horrible'?

Lying to your children is horrible.


with a lie, you have to know what you are aying is wrong. so by telling kids about religion you are not lieing to them, unless you are a non beliver.

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Quote: from King kong at 7:11 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Takinam at 2:48 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:39 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Shaknbake at 10:51 pm on July 26, 2008

The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.
Care to explain why you use the word 'horrible'?

 

 Lying to your children is horrible.


with a lie, you have to know what you are aying is wrong. so by telling kids about religion you are not lieing to them, unless you are a non beliver.


Believing that unicorns exist doesn't mean they do.


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Quote: from Takinam at 8:48 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:39 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Shaknbake at 10:51 pm on July 26, 2008

The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.
Care to explain why you use the word 'horrible'?

Lying to your children is horrible.

However, telling my children what I believe is not. And there is a difference between allowing a child to be a child and forcing a child to accept adult "realities".

Believing that unicorns exist doesn't mean they do.
Disbelieving they exist doesn't mean they don't.

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Quote: from Takinam at 9:37 am on July 27, 2008

Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.

Therefore, at least portion of Christian religion is a lie. If your child was to absorb all such religious invoice, that child would be absorbing some fallacy even if he were to also absorb some truth.

You would the be lying to your child.


Only if you teach them those parts, and only if you actually think those parts aren't true but teach them anyway. I'm curious about which parts of Christianity (and if you say "creationism" you deserve to be kicked in the proverbial balls) you think are so clearly disproven that anyone who teaches them must be lying?


And both Islam and Christian involve some kind of fear of death and some kind of righteous murder in the name of god. Stoning, cross crap, burning, etc.

Sure, they have those as part of their stories, and Santa Claus breaks into people's houses every Christmas and steals their food. You've still yet to show me how the consequences for disbelieving any religion result in murder and death.

Furthermore, you seem to be operating under the misguided idea that Christianity and Islam are the only two religions in the world. Tell me, what is so horrible about raising your child to be a Buddhist?

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Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 5:04 am on July 22, 2008

Quote: from osmoticdespair at 9:03 pm on July 21, 2008

Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 5:01 am on July 22, 2008

It is wrong to teach children lies.
 
 I would say it is wrong to teach children things that are not true, but that someone who in good faith and having made a sincere effort to discover the truth believes what they are teaching is true cannot be blamed for their errors.  

 I don't think religious people bring up their children are deliberately lying to their children.


They are doing it deliberately. Because all religion is false.

it is not lying when when you thin it true

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Quote: from Takinam at 8:37 am on July 27, 2008

Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.
For example?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:50 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Takinam at 8:37 am on July 27, 2008

Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.
For example?

lyk Jusus being born with no sex

people forget it God they are talking about

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Quote: from Link01 at 8:52 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:50 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Takinam at 8:37 am on July 27, 2008

Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.
For example?

lyk Jusus being born with no sex

people forget it God they are talking about


Not just that. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, so creationism contradics at least one law of physics. Walking on liquid water is physically impossible.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 5:25 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Link01 at 8:52 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:50 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Takinam at 8:37 am on July 27, 2008

Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.
For example?

 

 lyk Jusus being born with no sex  

 people forget it God they are talking about


Not just that. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, so creationism contradics at least one law of physics. Walking on liquid water is physically impossible.


So you saying God could not make matter a being more powerfull than us?

i mean they say God is all powerfull would you say he could do it

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Quote: from Link01 at 9:43 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 5:25 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Link01 at 8:52 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:50 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Takinam at 8:37 am on July 27, 2008

Some parts of mainstream Christian religion are not biologically applicable. As far as our known biology is concerned, these things are lies.
For example?

  lyk Jusus being born with no sex

  people forget it God they are talking about


 

 Not just that. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, so creationism contradics at least one law of physics. Walking on liquid water is physically impossible.


So you saying God could not make matter a being more powerfull than us?

i mean they say God is all powerfull would you say he could do it


Until you can prove that LAW of physics wrong(good luck, hah), then your opinion holds untrue.

They say lots of things, that can be contradictory. Such as if God is all loving, why do people go to hell? I mean, if God really were all loving, wouldn't he love us enough to get rid of evil? And if he's unable to get rid of evil and evil influences on us, then he's not all-powerful.

There's just so much that doesn't hold evidence, and can't be proven, so I will most definitely hold physics above your opinion.

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Quote: from Takinam at 3:13 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from King kong at 7:11 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Takinam at 2:48 pm on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:39 am on July 27, 2008

Quote: from Shaknbake at 10:51 pm on July 26, 2008

The Santa story is rather less horrible than the stories of Christianity/other mainstream religions.
Care to explain why you use the word 'horrible'?

  Lying to your children is horrible.


 

 with a lie, you have to know what you are aying is wrong. so by telling kids about religion you are not lieing to them, unless you are a non beliver.


Believing that unicorns exist doesn't mean they do.


so if God is reall do Athists all lie?

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Quote: from draakprinses at 11:51 am on July 27, 2008

Until you can prove that LAW of physics wrong(good luck, hah), then your opinion holds untrue.

They say lots of things, that can be contradictory. Such as if God is all loving, why do people go to hell? I mean, if God really were all loving, wouldn't he love us enough to get rid of evil? And if he's unable to get rid of evil and evil influences on us, then he's not all-powerful.  

There's just so much that doesn't hold evidence, and can't be proven, so I will most definitely hold physics above your opinion.


Why do you suppose 'quantum physics' came into being? Maybe because there are places where the laws of physics don't apply?

It would seem that some people choose not to be with God. Would a loving God force them to live with Him? And if He chooses to give us obstacles to overcome, why call it evil? Or claim He's not all-powerful?

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