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I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Replies: 39Last Post July 21, 2008 5:51pm by Shogun villimax
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Quote: from tkster at 6:33 am on July 19, 2008

As a general rule of thumb, many would not advise others to date those who they do not religiously agree with, even though I am one to do it. However, when you date someone of a different religious background and it ends because the person thinks you are "eternally destined" for Hell or a fire pit, you shouldn't be surprised

As an atheist, I have dated many Christian girls and have they have given me the ultimatum of "covert or else" and I've told them to keep dreaming. At some point you have to weight what matters and be prepared to realize that it more than likely won't work out for many.

On the other hand, if you love serial monogamy like I do, then it's wonderful to get in, get out, and get on with your life. The lack of being a Christian keeps it from being committed - which, for me, is perfect. If you're looking for commitment, you might want to seek someone like yourself.


If you're going to stay in religious circles, I'd ignore what people call themselves and you can save yourself a headache and a half. Suggestion:

Matthew 7:16-20


16: Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  
17: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.  
18: A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  
19: Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.  
20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

James 2:14-26


4: What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?  
15: If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,  
16: And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?  
17: Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.  
18: Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.  
19: Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.  
20: But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?  
21: Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?  
22: Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?  
23: And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.  
24: Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.  
25: Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?  
26: For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

tk


*nod* I had to learn that the hard way. Luckily, my girlfriend and I share the same religious views. We're both more spiritual than religious, not affiliating ourselves with any certain church or belief system. I think I got lucky this time, heh.

Those verses are great. I'll have to write those down.

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Quote: from newman at 8:05 pm on July 18, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 7:58 pm on July 18, 2008

Quote: from newman at 7:55 pm on July 18, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 7:53 pm on July 18, 2008

Quote: from newman at 7:48 pm on July 18, 2008

Just because we worship Him doesn't mean we have to behave like Him. Ideally we would, but we are only human and He was God.
 

  Does that make it right, then, to condemn, patronize, and insult others? I thought that was the point of Christianity, to strive to be like Christ.


  Obviously it's not right to do that. But I haven't met a nun or priest that does that. You can't say that ALL Christians do those things.


 

 I have never said that, nor will I ever.


You fucking IMLPIED that. Seriously, why do you wanna debate things when you're always an idiot?

You said you don't like Christians. That makes me think you don't like ALL Christians for the reasons you put in your second to last post.


I did not. I have always used the term "many", or "some", which is merited in this situation. I grew up Catholic, my family is Catholic, and I love them with all my heart.

I think you're just pissed that I'm really not an idiot, or a belligerent atheist, and that I'm not blindly swallowing everything you're saying, so you're resorting to petty insults. VERY Christian-like, let me tell you.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 8:16 pm on July 18, 2008

And you don't believe that your experience has made you even a little bit more critical of comments by these 'Christians'? You do seem to be painting with a pretty wide brush. Your ex was a jerk any way you want to define it. Christians can be guilty of that as easily as any non-Christian. We can be hypocrites as well. But that just proves we're human. If we were perfect, Christ wouldn't have been necessary, would he?

Them, yes. But as a whole, no.

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By the same stretch of the imagination you could argue I like your Mohammed (pbuh), but I do not like your Muslims.

You can say anything about any religion or atheism if you make sweeping generalisations.

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Well stated and I agree with you.

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Quote: from Blank black at 4:39 pm on July 19, 2008

By the same stretch of the imagination you could argue I like your Mohammed (pbuh), but I do not like your Muslims.  

You can say anything about any religion or atheism if you make sweeping generalisations.


so true

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Its true he did. But any way I agree with this angel girl. We arent the people that go arund flaunting our stuff.

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You must be disliking fanatic Christians.

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Quote: from annsmith at 2:23 am on July 21, 2008

You must be disliking fanatic Christians.

Me? I never stated if I agree or disagree with the quote I posted.

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We have to work on that.

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