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Should the US Drinking age be lowered from 21 to 18?
More college presidents support the idea
Replies: 22Last Post Aug. 20, 2008 3:09pm by RIMHfire
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Yes, I'm under 21 and I think it should be lowered to 18 39 57%
Yes, I'm 21 or over and I think it should be lowered to 18 7 10%
No, I'm under 21 and think it should stay at 21 16 23%
No, I'm 21 or over and think it should stay at 21 6 8%
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So basically some college presidents, even from very well known universities like Duke, Dartmouth, and Ohio State are suggesting that the drinking age should be moved from 21 to 18 citing research that shows that college people will drink regardless of if they're of age or not, and these laws just make them do it in a more dangerous manner.

People who support the age 21 drinking law like MADD say it saves lives, more people would die in drunk driving accidents if the drinking age was 18.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26271328

College presidents seek drinking age debate

They are calling on lawmakers to consider moving age back to 18


RALEIGH, North Carolina - College presidents from about 100 of the best-known U.S. universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.

The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the U.S. drinking age, which is among the highest in the world.

"This is a law that is routinely evaded," said John McCardell, former president of Middlebury College in Vermont who started the organization. "It is a law that the people at whom it is directed believe is unjust and unfair and discriminatory."

Other prominent schools in the group include Syracuse, Tufts, Colgate, Kenyon and Morehouse.

But even before the presidents begin the public phase of their efforts, which may include publishing newspaper ads in the coming weeks, they are already facing sharp criticism.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving says lowering the drinking age would lead to more fatal car crashes. It accuses the presidents of misrepresenting science and looking for an easy way out of an inconvenient problem. MADD officials are even urging parents to think carefully about the safety of colleges whose presidents have signed on.

"It's very clear the 21-year-old drinking age will not be enforced at those campuses," said Laura Dean-Mooney, national president of MADD.

Injuries, deaths from alcohol abuse

Both sides agree alcohol abuse by college students is a huge problem.

Research has found more than 40 percent of college students reported at least one symptom of alcohol abuse or dependence. One study has estimated more than 500,000 full-time students at four-year colleges suffer injuries each year related in some way to drinking, and about 1,700 die in such accidents.

A recent Associated Press analysis of federal records found that 157 college-age people, 18 to 23, drank themselves to death from 1999 through 2005.

Moana Jagasia, a Duke University sophomore from Singapore, where the drinking age is lower, said reducing the age in the U.S. could be helpful.

"There isn't that much difference in maturity between 21 and 18," she said. "If the age is younger, you're getting exposed to it at a younger age, and you don't freak out when you get to campus."

McCardell's group takes its name from ancient Greece, where the purple gemstone amethyst was widely believed to ward off drunkenness if used in drinking vessels and jewelry. He said college students will drink no matter what, but do so more dangerously when it's illegal.

The statement the presidents have signed avoids calling explicitly for a younger drinking age. Rather, it seeks "an informed and dispassionate debate" over the issue and the federal highway law that made 21 the de facto national drinking age by denying money to any state that bucks the trend.

But the statement makes clear the signers think the current law isn't working, citing a "culture of dangerous, clandestine binge-drinking," and noting that while adults under 21 can vote and enlist in the military, they "are told they are not mature enough to have a beer." Furthermore, "by choosing to use fake IDs, students make ethical compromises that erode respect for the law."

Shifting burden to high schools

But some college administrators sharply disagree that lowering the drinking age would help. University of Miami President Donna Shalala, who served as secretary of health and human services under President Bill Clinton, declined to sign.

"I remember college campuses when we had 18-year-old drinking ages, and I honestly believe we've made some progress," Shalala said in a telephone interview. "To just shift it back down to the high schools makes no sense at all."

Another scholar who has extensively researched college binge-drinking also criticized the presidents' initiative.

"I understand why colleges are doing it, because it splits their students, and they like to treat them all alike rather than having to card some of them. It's a nuisance to them," said Henry Wechsler of the Harvard School of Public Health.

But, he added, "I wish these college presidents sat around and tried to work out ways to deal with the problem on their campus rather than try to eliminate the problem by defining it out of existence."


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No way, I waited to long to legally buy alcohol for them to lower it

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Whoopwhoop OSU
It should be 18.

You can vote for the president but you can't consume alcohol?
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If it gets lowered when I'm 21 I will kill somebody

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while I'm 19 and I don't drink at all, I think it should be lowered. Either that or the age required to vote and to go to war should be increased to 21.

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They need a tiered system, like Germany. Beer and wine is available at 16, while liqueurs and spirits are available at 18. That spreads things out a little, making the change more gradual than it is now.

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Meh doesn't matter, those who want it at 18 can get it almost as easily at that age as 21

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yeah i think if they lowered it then there would be less drinking problems us high schools and i also think that if you are old enough to go to war at 18 and shoot and kill people you should be able to sit down at a bar and drink a damn beer

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i dont care anymore because in 3 hours im 21!!!!

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The US is pretty much the only country in the world with such a high drinking age. It doesn't make any sense.

People are always going to do things whether they are illegal or not, as they found out during Prohibition.

Just how high the U.S. drinking age is compared to other places hit me when I was offered a glass of wine by a waiter at a restaurant in Edinburgh. I'm only 17, but I guess I look 18 enough.

And at that moment I thought, "21 is ridiculous."

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I think 21 is a decent age. 18....and you're still a child just trying to show off.

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No it should not, drunk driving accidents would go through the roof, i've done research on this.

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Quote: from bstodge at 9:20 pm on Aug. 18, 2008

No it should not, drunk driving accidents would go through the roof, i've done research on this.

Again, follow Germany's lead. A reduced, tiered drinking age, but zero alcohol tolerance. And no forgiveness. If you drink and drive, and get caught, you lose your license for life.

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I think they should make it so that if you're 18 with a military or college I.D. you can drink. If not you have to wait until you're 21. It might encourage a few people to stay/go to school.

I'm not too worried about the drinking aspect of making the drinking age 18. It's not very hard to get alcohol. I'd like to see it 18 so I can get into night clubs and stuff.

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I'm in Montreal. It's 18 here. Why not?

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