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will i go to hell for being gay
Replies: 198Last Post Oct. 9, 2008 7:41pm by saf1238
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No, those verses say that people who have sex with those of like gender are sinning when they do so, not that people who are of homosexual orientation are sinning by merit of their own sexual preference.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:22 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

No, those verses say that people who have sex with those of like gender are sinning when they do so, not that people who are of homosexual orientation are sinning by merit of their own sexual preference.

And thats any better?

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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 6:24 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:22 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

No, those verses say that people who have sex with those of like gender are sinning when they do so, not that people who are of homosexual orientation are sinning by merit of their own sexual preference.

And thats any better?


Yes. You can choose whether or not you have sex with someone. You can't choose to whom you feel attracted.

You're new to this, aren't you?

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Gay sex is a sin then?
A sin it appears is comparable to being a thief or prostitute?



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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 6:28 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

Gay sex is a sin then?  
A sin it appears is comparable to being a thief or prostitute?

 


Is stealing a sin?

Is promiscuity a sin?

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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 4:51 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

Id ask why the hell are they comparing pedophilia, a sick sexual practice, to homosexuality, I certainly hope you don't think there on a par

And btw, I never said incurable? and that implies homosexuality is a disease :S
For many years, that's exactly what a lot of people believed about homosexuality. A disease that could be cured. (But notice the quotes around "curable" in my post.) And here you are, showing the same attitude toward the poor 'pedo' that so many have displayed toward the 'homo' in years past. Do you not see any irony there? So far the 'cure' rate for pedos is the same as for homos... zero. Maybe it's a genetic thing, too.

You don't seem to want homosexuality compared to anything, What classification would you put it in? The Bible just puts it in the 'sin' category if you succumb to acting on those feelings.

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Pedo= child abuse, in no conceivable way acceptable or justified
Homosexuality= a perfectly acceptable normal life choice imo


I dont think it should be compared to a sin no, thats because I dont think it, or acting on it are in any way shape or form,

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We're not comparing it to a sin; we're saying that, according to the Bible, certain homosexual acts are sins.

Why don't you think certain homosexual acts are sins?

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Why on earth would acting on your sexual desires, towards another consenting human being, be wrong?



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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 6:42 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

Why on earth would acting on your sexual desires, towards another consenting human being, be wrong?  


Let's play a game.

Let's say there's this man, we'll call him Norman, and Norman has a sexual desire towards a twelve year old. The twelve year old consents to this.

By your standards, that's okay.

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If you cant see a distinction between homosexuality and pedophilia then I think you have a problem

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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 6:51 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

If you cant see a distinction between homosexuality and pedophilia then I think you have a problem

Sure, I see the distinction: one's still considered taboo and the other one is perfectly acceptable. You seem to think that neither should be.

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Would you like to tell me where I said or implied pedophilia shouldn't be a taboo?!  

Im slightly concerned your even comparing it to homosexuality to be honest

I kinda thought dont screw a child would be a given of things not to do on my description of what shouldnt be a sin...

Post edited at 4:49 pm on Aug. 26, 2008 by Nerdandproud

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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 6:54 pm on Aug. 26, 2008

Would you like to tell me where I said or implied pedophilia shouldn't be a taboo?!

Im slightly concerned your even comparing it to homosexuality to be honest

I kinda thought dont screw a child would be a given of things not to do on my description of what shouldnt be a sin...


It's plenty comparable. If you think homosexuality should be okay, I'd be willing to bet that your counterpart in several decades will be thinking pedophilia should be okay and complaining about people who say that it isn't. After all, if the twelve-year-old consents, by your definition, it's perfectly alright.

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Pedos are diff from homosexuals. When a homosexual engages in a homosexual act it can be consensual which makes it OK, but with pedos acting its rape.

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