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will i go to hell for being gay
Replies: 198Last Post Oct. 9, 2008 7:41pm by saf1238
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yes 26 26%
no 51 51%
i do not belive in hell 23 23%
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Nerdandproud


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Like I said before, I thought dont have sex with a child is kind of implied, but apparently not

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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 11:54 am on Aug. 27, 2008

Like I said before, I thought dont have sex with a child is kind of implied, but apparently not


You need to defend your position better.

You take the position that homosexuality and paedophilia are morally distinct for granted. You shouldn't. You need justification for that belief beyond simply "they're different."

I'll save you the trouble and sum up your argument for you.

You don't believe a child (even as old as twelve) can give consent or you believe that in a sexual interaction between an adult and a child, the power-difference/maturity difference negates the consent of the child and that's why paedophilia and homosexuality between adults are different.


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Nerdandproud


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Meh, This isn't really my forte, but yes

What he said  



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I agree, a child the age of 12 classifies as legally retarded and cannot consent to having sex with anyone, a pervert or some curious other 12 year old.

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Quote: from FutileRhetoric at 5:01 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

I agree, a child the age of 12 classifies as legally retarded and cannot consent to having sex with anyone, a pervert or some curious other 12 year old.

It's obviously not the same issue when there's two children involved. Yes, the age difference does make a difference.


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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 2:54 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

Like I said before, I thought dont have sex with a child is kind of implied, but apparently not

So you're changing your stance.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:58 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

So you're changing your stance.

No, he just formulated and expressed it poorly.


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Quote: from Shaknbake at 9:08 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:58 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

So you're changing your stance.

No, he just formulated and expressed it poorly.


Mmm, I'd say it's less a case of expressing it poorly and more a case of not thinking the implications through. If he meant "two consenting adults" he should have said, "two consenting adults" from the get go.

As it is, his opinion on what should and shouldn't be a sin is moot.

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yeah you will

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TRUCUBANDYME305


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Yes you will because God donesn't approve of homosexuality.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:04 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

Mmm, I'd say it's less a case of expressing it poorly and more a case of not thinking the implications through. If he meant "two consenting adults" he should have said, "two consenting adults" from the get go.

I did say that he formulated [and] expressed it poorly. The formulation bit would've been not saying "consenting adults" from the get go.


As it is, his opinion on what should and shouldn't be a sin is moot.

Didn't stop you from arguing the point with him, did it?


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Quote: from Shaknbake at 12:58 am on Aug. 28, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 7:04 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

Mmm, I'd say it's less a case of expressing it poorly and more a case of not thinking the implications through. If he meant "two consenting adults" he should have said, "two consenting adults" from the get go.

I did say that he formulated [and] expressed it poorly. The formulation bit would've been not saying "consenting adults" from the get go.  


As it is, his opinion on what should and shouldn't be a sin is moot.

Didn't stop you from arguing the point with him, did it?


Largely because he didn't think before he typed, and I was trying to get him to do so. You defeated the purpose. Now he has not learned to think, only to be a Me-Too. Good job.

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I don't think? Wow thats ironic

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Quote: from Nerdandproud at 8:18 am on Aug. 28, 2008

I don't think? Wow thats ironic

Obviously not, as you had to change your statement in order for it to actually encompass your moral beliefs. You were so upset over what you perceived to be an "injustice" that you made a blanket statement without thinking and proceeded to make yourself look extremely foolish in your following posts.

So no, you don't think. Perhaps you should take your cue from those of us who do think and not let your emotions get in the way of making rational posts.

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i voted yes for the hell of it

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