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USA refuses to accept defeat, keeps making excuses
Replies: 33Last Post Aug. 21, 2008 8:11pm by Midnight Frost
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Quote: from jamesish at 2:42 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

I think you might be making something big out of nothing.

Im just saying because I heard them crying over n over n over about it before I went to work, while on my way to work, drive to lunch, driving home.  I've just been hearing it all day.  I turn on to local news channel, and sure enough I turn it on right at the moment they were doing sports and the sme cry. is all

I mean if we got screwed over, so be it, it sucks, but judgements been made.  Hopefully next time we wont have judges with vision problems


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Quote: from what the mong at 2:47 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.

damn fucking straight. Proud to be an American!

Quoted for mother fuckin' truth!


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Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.

America is at the very bottom with it's treasonous past, but that's for another thread


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i saw that when it happened.

she got jipped, and there's no way to deny that

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Quote: from scalywag66 at 2:50 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.

America is at the very bottom with it's treasonous past, but that's for another thread


Shut your mouth, you little Nazi! Shame on you for talking down on your own country!


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Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:49 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from what the mong at 2:47 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.
 
 damn fucking straight. Proud to be an American!

Quoted for mother fuckin' truth!


^^this

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Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:53 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from scalywag66 at 2:50 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from I Am Gay For Crazi J at 2:45 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Your opinion matters not. America is a great country. Yes, we have flaws, but so does every other country. We are on top of the best.
 

America is at the very bottom with it's treasonous past, but that's for another thread


Shut your mouth, you little Nazi! Shame on you for talking down on your own country!


I'm sorry!!!  I'm just speaking the truth.

Post edited at 3:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 by scalywag66


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I call treason! You shall be hanged at dusk! Fool!

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There should have been a tie.
The tie breaker thing is retarded.

I'd say that no matter what countries tied.

On a side note, Nastia kicked the Chinese girl's ass.

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Phelp's narrow win was registered on a inanimate sensor pad.

Gymnastics is inherently subjective.

They should have had another routine after that.  

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Quote: from greatescape11 at 2:40 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Did you actually watch the gymnastics?  It was glaringly obvious that it was a judging error....?

 
And how exactly can you tell the difference between a race where the difference was .01 seconds?  You must have some pretty insane superpowers.


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Both Nastia and the Chinese gymnast did exceptionally well on the uneven bars, however, the Chinese girl not only made the same small error during her routine as Nastia [which was the only visible error Nastia made] but also took a step after she landed.
Watch some clips, it is blatantly obvious that in that case [and in the vault, where the chinese girl FELL on her knee's and still won] that there was judging Error [deserving of a capitol E]

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Quote: from scalywag66 at 5:38 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Maybe I'm over analyzing this, but IMO it's more evidence of America's prideful attitude

Article

this article shows how some sports shouldnt count because of the judging. These sports have been around for a while in the olympics so just because USA is loosing in the gold medal standings you can take it out??  

the chinese gymnast won gold yesterday because she won the tiebreaker ove a USA gymnast and the NBC announcers couldnt accept defeat they kept raving about how the tie breaker is incorrect blah blah blah. WHO CARES JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT the judges would know more about gymnastics than them so they need to respect the other gymnast because she won fairly

also, why didnt they argue the micheal phelps race because it also looked like a tie between him and the othe swimmer from serbia.

I bet if USA was leading in the gold medal race you wouldnt find any complaints with judging


why are you complaining? The onlything that matters is USA is kicking ass

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i have no doubt that every country has coaches, athletes, fans or media that would complain if either of those things happened to their athlete.

come on, this isn't the USOC complaining.

regarding the gymnast who fell during vault: imo it's not necessarily the judges' fault, it's the FIG's fault for having a system that allows for that to happen without a complete uproar. obviously the landing shouldn't be everything, but i think it should be more significant than it is, if it currently allows for this to happen.

Post edited at 8:30 pm on Aug. 19, 2008 by hithere


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Quote: from jonlester31 at 7:27 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

why are you complaining? The onlything that matters is USA is kicking ass

Not really. Look at the gold differential. It's fucking huge.

Furthermore, a bad call should be pointed out independent of who is winning or losing. The system designed was bad. It should have come down to a tie breaker decided by another routine, not a computer formula.

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I completely, 100% agree with the OP.  

Now I personally, thought that Nastia should have at least tied. HOWEVER, difficulty of skills matters as well. You can be a diver and get 10.0s on an easy dive and another diver can get 7.0s on an incredible difficult dive and beat you.  

THAT is why the Chinese girl won. Is because the difficulty was taken into account.

If it were a case of Jamie Sale and David Pelletier in Salt Lake, where the difficulty level was higher AND the performance was flawless vs. a lower difficulty routine a fall (the Russians) that beat them, THEN it would be a serious travesty.

But the Chinese girl had higher difficulty and she ended up with a higher execution score (the B score) which is why she won. If tied, the B score is used.

Post edited at 3:54 am on Aug. 20, 2008 by OodleNoodle


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