Why Do Black People Not Tip? -- LiveWire Teen Forums

Quote: from jakelong at 2:20 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

1. They go out to restaurants more so they used to it and know what to give
2. They got more extra money.

I agree with the first point - as sitdown restaurants are always more expensive than the self serve fastfood restaurants, they're obviously going to attract higher socioeconomic classes, which will then create more familiarity with things such as tipping.

The second point seems off since most people who do tip tend to believe that if you cannot afford a proper tip, you cannot afford the meal. But it may have an influence since, with less spare cash to throw around, the tips will be smaller and likely more pre-determined.

Yeah although Im working class group but we still do it because my mom knows its tough for the little guy.

Not saying that all do, but such attitudes seem to be more frequent among the working class than the other classes.

I dont know who you talked to but its not really that obvious to most everybody else.

My friends mostly consist of whites, Asians, and mixes between the two, with a few Latinos, blacks, and Indians here and there, from generally all classes noted in that survey.

Thing is, though, of the minorities I do talk to and make friends with, they seem to be much more integrated into society at large than many other minorities of the same race I've encountered, hence why I was able to befriend them. I often wonder how much integration has to do with tipping.

No I know that but if you think the delivery charge was already the tip you prolly will ignore the tip line because of that.

Perhaps, though it should send some signal to peoples' brains that pizza delivery drivers are tipped employees. You see the same kind of credit card receipts at all sitdown restaurants. The only place I see it where you usually don't tip an employee is at Baskin Robbins, but do bear in mind when I saw it there for the first time, I honestly wondered whether I was supposed to tip those employees or not. I would assume that if a person who had no clue about tipping pizza delivery drivers saw that, they'd wonder the same thing themselves.

At a restaurant its more obvious, and "common sense".

Eh, common sense is a very subjective word. To me, tipping restaurant waitstaffs, food delivery drivers, bartenders, valets, bellhops, taxi drivers, and even blackjack dealers is common sense. To others who have had little exposure to tipping, it would require a lot more conscious thought, thereby making it not common sense for them.

Well my mom tips in restaurant but as I said we got confused about delivery charge so she used not to tip for pizza delivery vry much at all. Then I got it figured out I forgot how and then from then on in we did it.

I don't exactly understand what you mean by how you "forgot" how? I mean, as soon as you'd figure out the delivery charge, if that was a reason why you weren't tipping, is it not easy enough to simply revert back to tipping $3 or so?

Hey I know you was gonna say that but the fact is we use cash to pay for it not credit card. So if we get coupos we have more extra cash. So we can tip nice.

I guess that makes sense for cash customers. I've never really considered it since, from all my tips, I probably have about $700 laying beside by bed in a bag all in one and five dollar bills that I need to take to the bank. I have never had a problem with a lack of cash since I began this job and hadn't needed to use my debit card for anything in ages.

One thing you have to think about too is that until you mentioned it NO ONE ever told me that drivers had to pay their own gas. Its not that we dont care. We just dont think about it. By "we" i mean the customer in general.

Yeah, I'd assume they wouldn't. Thing is, if the driver didn't pay for the gas, who do you think does? The company does reimburse the gas, but reimbursement is just that - given money to compensate after the fact they paid for it themselves. Moreover, companies only care about the gas - the reimbursement usually is never enough to cover replacing brake pads, flat tires, oil changes every month or two, or the time my radiator blew up. I don't like having to expect customers to make up for that burden to be honest, but fact is if they didn't, I would switch to another job in an instant since it would cost me money to do my job.

Ppl usually think that a big company like pizza hut will provide the van the gas, the insurance since you're an employee as far as we see.

Eh, I dunno about the whole company car myth. Most people I've talked to on deliveries know about that, although they usually don't know that we have to provide our own auto insurance like everybody else. Thing is, if we told our auto insurance companies that we delivered pizzas, most of them would drop us fast. As a result, in order to actually be insured, we usually have to lie to them and say that we work as insiders at the store. When I was interviewed by my general manager, I asked him what the deal is with insurance, and he simply said, "just don't tell them." Also better hope that you don't get in a wreck while on the job, too.

So one thing you can do is have a little info paper that you give with the delivery about how you have to pay your own gas, etc... PPl know thats a big problem so they'll be willing to either pay a good tip or forget about pizza food.

The thing about gas is that reimbursement usually covers it. The only time it didn't was when gas prices were going up insanely fast back in March, and the reimbursement is always slow to react to such things. People who are only concerned about me being reimbursed for whatever I do, while that's nice of them, don't seem to understand why you tip for a service. That's something, I think, is more important and should be made more clear for them.

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