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We're not all Italian.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:33 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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We're not all Italian.

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No really? Wow I thought all europeans were part of the same race so we could all lump them in the same bin just like we do with asians and latinos.

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...and blacks for that matter

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Some of our ancestors helped found the USA and were here before they kept track of names.

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Wikipedia is still better than ending up with an anime link

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Quote: from jakelong at 7:34 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:33 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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We're not all Italian.

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No really? Wow I thought all europeans were part of the same race so we could all lump them in the same bin just like we do with asians and latinos.  

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And how many "Asians" do you really see? Around here, there are maybe 10.

Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 7:36 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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Quote: from jakelong at 7:34 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:33 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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We're not all Italian.

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No really? Wow I thought all europeans were part of the same race so we could all lump them in the same bin just like we do with asians and latinos.  

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...and blacks for that matter

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:33 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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Some of our ancestors helped found the USA and were here before they kept track of names.

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Yep some of our ancestors from Europe, Asia, Africa, South America and Native Americans.

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Hawaii and Hawaiian people were taken over by Americans, and their reigning leaders were dethroned. It was a last wish, sort of speak, that future people who have Hawaiian ancestry have access to a good education (Kamehameha Schools).

It essentially is the ONLY thing that Hawaiian people have left since it is an ethnic group that is dying out and becoming washed with other ethnicities, and the lands that were once their are open to whoever, basically. There are many Hawaiians that are very bitter about this annexation and takeover still today.

Keep in mind that the people of Hawaii didn't simply agree to become a state. They were taken over first. I'd compare it most similarly to Native-Americans, yet they have far more privileges than Hawaiians do, and have been recognized more as well. There still is an injustice and it's not such a simple question of whether or not it's right or racist that Hawaiian children get this education. It'd be considered racist if there was no history involved, but since there is it can't be overlooked. Hawaiian people were literally taken over.

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You obviously don't understand the background of this.

Hawaii and Hawaiian people were taken over by Americans, and their reigning leaders were dethroned. It was a last wish, sort of speak, that future people who have Hawaiian ancestry have access to a good education (Kamehameha Schools).  

It essentially is the ONLY thing that Hawaiian people have left since it is an ethnic group that is dying out and becoming washed with other ethnicities, and the lands that were once their are open to whoever, basically. There are many Hawaiians that are very bitter about this annexation and takeover still today.

Keep in mind that the people of Hawaii didn't simply agree to become a state. They were taken over first. I'd compare it most similarly to Native-Americans, yet they have far more privileges than Hawaiians do, and have been recognized more as well. There still is an injustice and it's not such a simple question of whether or not it's right or racist that Hawaiian children get this education. It'd be considered racist if there was no history involved, but since there is it can't be overlooked. Hawaiian people were literally taken over.

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just wondered what LW's perspective was on this

since htey find historically black colleges outrageous for the most part

and i've heard people on here proclaim stuff about segregation

just wanted to see something

great post though

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I ended up with both. That's how I understood the jumpsuit comment AND I confirmed the schooling as true.

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And how many "Asians" do you really see? Around here, there are maybe 10.

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How many negroes know what African country they came from?(unless that they aren't Australoids)

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In the first stages of the USA, there were Caucasians: the government and citizens.

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Parts of the US in the west and florida belonged to Spain and then mexico and they were in that area way before the US became the 50 states.

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The Mongoloids: The Natives that would, sometimes, fight against the Americans.

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Parts of the US in the west and florida belonged to Spain and then mexico and they were in that area way before the US became the 50 states.Spain? Since when was that nonwhite until recently?

And no, 'asians' were virtually unknown amongst the neewly growing country, and the negroes weren't even allowed to vote.

The Mongoloids: The Natives that would, sometimes, fight against the Americans. Fighting for their own land against a foreign invader. But many were also fighting WITH england and WITH france when england and frnce were at war with each other. Their land? THEY claim that land cannot be owned, therefore by THEIR beliefs, we didn't steal anything.

Also, before the mongoloid invasions, a lot of evidence suggests that Caucasians roamed the Americas, and visited afterwords with technology.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Ok, so on the islands of Hawaii, local people (local hawaiians) get the benefit of sending their children to special schools, most ofhe time schools called Kamehameha. Only if you have some hawaiian blood can you enter. That and local hawaiians also get benefits over people who weren't born on the island in restaurants and stuff

 
now the question I propose to you Livewire is: do you find this racist??

i'm just curious

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If they are government funded schools its not good.  In any case yes it is racist.

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Quote: from Springs at 1:10 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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Ok, so on the islands of Hawaii, local people (local hawaiians) get the benefit of sending their children to special schools, most ofhe time schools called Kamehameha. Only if you have some hawaiian blood can you enter. That and local hawaiians also get benefits over people who weren't born on the island in restaurants and stuff  

 
 now the question I propose to you Livewire is: do you find this racist??  

 i'm just curious  

 

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If they are government funded schools its not good. In any case yes it is racist.

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They're not government funded, they're backed by the Bishop Estate and is a private school.

I would consider this racist in a sense, but I would give these schools an exception due to the history I wrote in my earlier post. Imagine if another country took over the US but you had an American school left for only Americans. Now imagine that country trying to take that away after taking your entire civilization away earlier.

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Quote: from Elm at 10:03 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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Quote: from Springs at 1:10 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

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Ok, so on the islands of Hawaii, local people (local hawaiians) get the benefit of sending their children to special schools, most ofhe time schools called Kamehameha. Only if you have some hawaiian blood can you enter. That and local hawaiians also get benefits over people who weren't born on the island in restaurants and stuff

   
  now the question I propose to you Livewire is: do you find this racist??

  i'm just curious

 

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 If they are government funded schools its not good.  In any case yes it is racist.

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They're not government funded, they're backed by the Bishop Estate and is a private school.

I would consider this racist in a sense, but I would give these schools an exception due to the history I wrote in my earlier post. Imagine if another country took over the US but you had an American school left for only Americans. Now imagine that country trying to take that away after taking your entire civilization away earlier.

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It's not racist, it's segregated. Segregation can exist without racism.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
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Spain? Since when was that nonwhite until recently?

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And no, 'asians' were virtually unknown amongst the neewly growing country, and the negroes weren't even allowed to vote.

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BTW why do you call them mongoloid  and put asian in quotes. Got a problem calling asians by their real name?

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Their land? THEY claim that land cannot be owned, therefore by THEIR beliefs, we didn't steal anything.

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Also, before the mongoloid invasions, a lot of evidence suggests that Caucasians roamed the Americas, and visited afterwords with technology.

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Post edited at 2:10 pm on Aug. 22, 2008 by jakelong

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:52 am on Aug. 22, 2008

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Spain? Since when was that nonwhite until recently?

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Spanish ppl mixed with amerindians in Alta California, Texas and New Mexico way before the US was created.

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When the American War of Independence broke out in 1775, the vast majority of the Iroquois Amerinds actively sided with the British, while in the south the Cherokee, Choctaw, and Creek Amerinds also seized the opportunity to launch a series of attacks on the White colonists, becoming formally allied to the British shortly thereafter.

The American revolutionaries then had to put down all these Amerind uprisings and fight the British at the same time, something which for a while seriously divided the American's fighting forces, although they were ultimately successful in this aim.

When independence was finally won from the British, the participation of the Amerinds in the anti-revolutionary campaign served to confirm the opinion of the new White nation that the Amerinds were irreparably hostile.

Thus it was that the American Constitution, accepted by the 13 former colonies shortly after independence had been won, included the regulation of relations with the Amerinds under the clause of the Constitution which dealt with the regulation of relations with foreign states: Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution read:

"The Congress shall have Power . . . To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

George Washington and the other original Founding Fathers of the United States therefore had not the slightest intention of ever including the Amerinds into their republic, classing them as outside aliens along with other "foreign nations".

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And no, 'asians' were virtually unknown amongst the neewly growing country, and the negroes weren't even allowed to vote.

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They STILL helped BUILD the country.

BTW why do you call them mongoloid and put asian in quotes. Got a problem calling asians by their real name?

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Their land? THEY claim that land cannot be owned, therefore by THEIR beliefs, we didn't steal anything.

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"you" stole it? How old are you 600 year old? European stole the land because they say it BELONGS ONLY to them.

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Also, before the mongoloid invasions, a lot of evidence suggests that Caucasians roamed the Americas, and visited afterwords with technology.

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They roamed it but did not settle. I thought you was supposed to SETTLE to at least have some claim on it according to eruopean invasion thinking anyway.

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