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Black people should really be grateful to slave owners
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Quote: from xobsessedx at 2:08 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

You speak... truth, in a very crude and foul way.

I defy you to find something foul or crude in my post.


I am not glad you said this. No one appreciates your post.

Don't confuse you not appreciating it with no one appreciating it.

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Quote: from cgm09 at 2:09 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

im black and i take ofence to that so shut tha fuck up!

I take offense to you being here so maybe you should leave.


I can't believe I'm going to say this but I agree with you.

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I dont like when people try to find good things in slavery. Especially when they arent black. I HATE it when people who arent black want to tell you how should feel about being black.  They dont know anything.  You should not tell me what to be greatful for, you should not tell me how to feel.  If I wanted to feel that way, then guess what? I would. You do not and will never understand what its like, so just leave it alone.

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Africa wouldnt have been in the state it is now if the white man didnt come there and destroy it those centuries ago. Africa would have probably been a very lucrative successful country right now if it wasnt for THOSE DAMN WHITE PEOPLE. So your theory is not valid and you should probably not say that to anyone in real life cause you will get your ass kicked properly and rightfully.

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Like MMM I question if we know what emigration would have looked like without the slave trade, but without a doubt the african american population today has prospered from it.

That is why it always cracks me up when I read about "return to Africa" movments etc...I cannot imagine the entire black population of the US moving back to Africa. They would go into culture shock and be miserable, get aids and die more than likely.

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 8:06 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Certainly.  If we're opening up speculation, a lot of things could have happened.  However, even with Western involvement, Africa is still woefully behind the world technologically and the emigration rates for the intervening two centuries would suggest that the ratio of blacks to whites in first world countries would still be much lower in the absence of the slave trade.

The slave trade doesn't have to be a good thing to have had a positive impact.


Yeah, well if emigration hadn't started as a result of the slave trade there might be more community and governmental involvement in their own countries which would have helped enormously with the development of their living conditions as well as technology and the like. That's not to say that it could turn into somewhere as technologically evolved as the North, but still. Obviously the slave trade isn't the cause, but it certainly didn't help.

No, certainly not, it can have an effect that's good whilst the idea being bad. I mean who knows. It's definitely a plus side that helped America become more culturally diverse.

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Quote: from summababy93 at 12:11 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

I dont like when people try to find good things in slavery. Especially when they arent black. I HATE it when people who arent black want to tell you how should feel about being black. They dont know anything. You should not tell me what to be greatful for, you should not tell me how to feel. If I wanted to feel that way, then guess what? I would. You do not and will never understand what its like, so just leave it alone.

From an emotional view this is true for many black people i feel the same way.

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I agree with KweenZ. Africa was doing just fine, they didnt need anyones help.  Back then it was a very successful.  YOu should really know the facts before you talk about this stuff.

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The 1t world wouldn't be so 1st world if they didn't get it by raping the rest of it.

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Quote: from summababy93 at 2:11 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

You do not and will never understand what its like, so just leave it alone.
There are a lot more things in this world that people haven't experienced, and never will, yet they make opinions and assumptions on them as well, fact or fiction. You can't stop people from voicing their opinions.

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Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 12:15 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

The 1t world wouldn't be so 1st world if they didn't get it by raping the rest of it.

EXACTLY

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Quote: from KweenZ at 2:12 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Africa wouldnt have been in the state it is now if the white man didnt come there and destroy it those centuries ago. Africa would have probably been a very lucrative successful country right now if it wasnt for THOSE DAMN WHITE PEOPLE. So your theory is not valid and you should probably not say that to anyone in real life cause you will get your ass kicked properly and rightfully.

I'm sure it might have been just fine.  Of course, this isn't a topic about the effect of the slave trade on Africa.  It's a topic about the effect of the slave trade on modern black people in Western countries who prosper while those "fortunate" ones whose forefathers weren't sold into slavery die in poverty and famine and epidemic.

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Quote: from summababy93 at 2:15 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

I agree with KweenZ. Africa was doing just fine, they didnt need anyones help. Back then it was a very successful. YOu should really know the facts before you talk about this stuff.

Africa was sucessful in the 16th-19th centuries? In what way? the majority of it was under European Rule.

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I cant stop them, but it would be nice if they knew the facts b4 they start saying crap.  Form an opinion once you have been educated. . .  not when you have one piece of information and decide to run with it.  

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Quote: from KweenZ at 2:16 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 12:15 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

The 1t world wouldn't be so 1st world if they didn't get it by raping the rest of it.

EXACTLY


Which is, again, irrelevant to my point.  Having trouble finding the topic?

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