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Replies: 29Last Post Aug. 24, 2008 8:24pm by the real anti christ
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Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


OK, I'll type more out for you Canadians.

DEVELOPMENTS:

Adrian Andrews, the manager of Matt Engarde, was involved with Juan Corrida.  Her mentor was Celeste, who was Juan's former manager.  

Celeste committed suicde by hanging herself. Police found ink on her fingertips, but no suicide note.  Juan was the first one on the scene, and police suspected him of hiding the note.  Nothing was found to prove he did, so police couldn't do anything.

NEW DEVELOPMENTS:

The knife has my client's fingerprints on it.

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Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.

I'm only a high school graduate, I don't know what pronouns are.

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Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 11:06 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.

I'm only an American high school graduate, I don't know what pronouns are.


There, that looks better.

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Quote: from the real anti christ at 9:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.  

 And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


PRONOUNS ARE AMERICAN!!!! You simply wouldn't understand.

Does anything you say anymore make sense to anyone?

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Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 10:56 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.  

 And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


OK, I'll type more out for you Canadians.

DEVELOPMENTS:

Adrian Andrews, the manager of Matt Engarde, was involved with Juan Corrida. Her mentor was Celeste, who was Juan's former manager.

Celeste committed suicde by hanging herself. Police found ink on her fingertips, but no suicide note. Juan was the first one on the scene, and police suspected him of hiding the note. Nothing was found to prove he did, so police couldn't do anything.

NEW DEVELOPMENTS:

The knife has my client's fingerprints on it.


This doesn't make any bloody sense. Why did Adrian become involved with Juan after Celeste's death, other than a coincidence? Wait, Juan is dead...maybe the suicide was forced/faked(i.e. murdered) because Adrian wanted to be the best (can't be the best if someone is teaching you). Can't connect Juan yet though. And not sure what to make of the fingerprints.

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Quote: from OLPFan200 at 10:59 am on Aug. 21, 2008

This doesn't make any bloody sense. Why did Adrian become involved with Juan after Celeste's death, other than a coincidence? Wait, Juan is dead...maybe the suicide was forced/faked(i.e. murdered) because Adrian wanted to be the best (can't be the best if someone is teaching you). Can't connect Juan yet though. And not sure what to make of the fingerprints.

She was really close to Celeste, and I assume she was trying to get close to him to find out what he did with the note.

Actually, soon after Celeste killed herself, Adrian tried to off herself as well.

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Maybe Juan did something and the note outed him? Or maybe it outed something far more personal that, if read, would crush Adrian?

But still, how does this lead to Juan's death, and further, how does this relate to Matt stabbing Juan's corpse?

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Quote: from OLPFan200 at 1:43 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Maybe Juan did something and the note outed him? Or maybe it outed something far more personal that, if read, would crush Adrian?

But still, how does this lead to Juan's death, and further, how does this relate to Matt stabbing Juan's corpse?


Don't know, but I am about to head back to working on it.  Details later.

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To me, it seems very shady that they are assuming there is a note simply based on the ink on her fingertips. I mean, hello, letters, shopping lists, writing a check, etc. People use pens for more than suicide notes.

I'm going to go ahead and say that Celeste killed herself, Juan found her, she wasn't quite dead but had irreversible damage, and he stabbed her out of love and not wanting her to live a painful life as a partial retard forever.

How are you an attorney if you're only a highschool graduate? Is that really the only prerequisite in Arkansas?

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Quote: from 4est at 5:34 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

To me, it seems very shady that they are assuming there is a note simply based on the ink on her fingertips. I mean, hello, letters, shopping lists, writing a check, etc. People use pens for more than suicide notes.

Because I also write shopping lists before I kill myself.


I'm going to go ahead and say that Celeste killed herself, Juan found her, she wasn't quite dead but had irreversible damage, and he stabbed her out of love and not wanting her to live a painful life as a partial retard forever.

Celeste was not stabbed, Juan was.  Autopsy confirmed that she died by strangulation.   Ditto with Juan.

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Wait, Juan was dead too?!

Nobody told me pen ink wore off after 5 minutes.

What if she wrote a letter to someone unrelated - her mother, her estranged lover, etc. and it hasn't been discovered yet?

What if she was having a normal day, about to go shopping, and then got some really shitty news? Or maybe she was bipolar - one moment it was a normal day, the next she was depressed.

The point is that I think it's absurd to assume that ink on fingertips = hidden suicide note.

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Quote: from 4est at 8:37 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Wait, Juan was dead too?!

*facepalm*  Did you even read the begining of the topic?


What if she wrote a letter to someone unrelated - her mother, her estranged lover, etc. and it hasn't been discovered yet?

Police turned the house upside down and sideways and didn't find anything.

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Quote: from 4est at 5:34 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

How are you an attorney if you're only a highschool graduate? Is that really the only prerequisite in Arkansas?

Actually, anyone can be an attorney for about $20 - $40.

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Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from 4est at 8:37 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Wait, Juan was dead too?!

*facepalm*  Did you even read the begining of the topic?

 


What if she wrote a letter to someone unrelated - her mother, her estranged lover, etc. and it hasn't been discovered yet?

Police turned the house upside down and sideways and didn't find anything.


Right, usually people you know, mail letters.

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Quote: from OLPFan200 at 10:52 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from the real anti christ at 9:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.

  And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


PRONOUNS ARE AMERICAN!!!! You simply wouldn't understand.

NO BUT ATLEAST ITS IN CAPS!!!

Does anything you say anymore make sense to anyone?




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