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There was an episode on The Boondocks titled Return of the King.  In which Martin Luther King Jr. awakes from a 32 year coma into present day America.  Interestingly enough, throughout the entire episode MLK Jr. seems to struggle with a complete disgust he has with the wild, ignorant behavior and inane accomplishments (like the creation of BET) of his people. Very hilarious episode with strong points that were made.  

 TheLastMagister, although you mean well it's inappropriate for you to speak of such points about the black community.  The same as it would be for me, an African-American, to point out the flaws of the white community.  I'm not part of the white community, you're not a part of the black community.  Simply put, it's a racial issue that should strictly be discussed among blacks.  

 But I'm actually curious about your black friends you mentioned, though.  I have white friends.  An intelligent few with their own views on politics, religion and race.  And they understand not to speak too much on a race issue concerning blacks like you have.  They understand it's not their place.

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Lol, I wouldn't mind criticism of the white race. Oh wait, we get it all the time from everyone else, so we aren't allowed to add our own to others?

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Enough of the "we", your indicating too much of a mob mentality.

And there are enough minority jokes to move a mountain so enough of this "unfair" crap.

And MLK fought for equality among peoples. He would not be angry with African-Americans for doing what they please and not conforming to attitudes around them. He advocated responsible choice. And respect for that choice.

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:16 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from insurgent at 9:04 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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There was an episode on The Boondocks titled Return of the King.  In which Martin Luther King Jr. awakes from a 32 year coma into present day America.  Interestingly enough, throughout the entire episode MLK Jr. seems to struggle with a complete disgust he has with the wild, ignorant behavior and inane accomplishments (like the creation of BET) of his people. Very hilarious episode with strong points that were made.  

  TheLastMagister, although you mean well it's inappropriate for you to speak of such points about the black community.  The same as it would be for me, an African-American, to point out the flaws of the white community.  I'm not part of the white community, you're not a part of the black community.  Simply put, it's a racial issue that should strictly be discussed among blacks.  

  But I'm actually curious about your black friends you mentioned, though.  I have white friends.  An intelligent few with their own views on politics, religion and race.  And they understand not to speak too much on a race issue concerning blacks like you have.  They understand it's not their place.

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 Lol, I wouldn't mind criticism of the white race. Oh wait, we get it all the time from everyone else, so we aren't allowed to add our own to others?

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Enough of the "we", your indicating too much of a mob mentality.

And there are enough minority jokes to move a mountain so enough of this "unfair" crap.  

And MLK fought for equality among peoples. He would not be angry with African-Americans for doing what they please and not conforming to attitudes around them. He advocated responsible choice. And respect for that choice.

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So you consider committing violent crimes on a national scale responsible choice? Since when does equality mean that we must tolerate everything minorities do but at the same time be ashamed of who we are as whites?

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Quote: from Takinam at 9:28 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:16 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from insurgent at 9:04 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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There was an episode on The Boondocks titled Return of the King.  In which Martin Luther King Jr. awakes from a 32 year coma into present day America.  Interestingly enough, throughout the entire episode MLK Jr. seems to struggle with a complete disgust he has with the wild, ignorant behavior and inane accomplishments (like the creation of BET) of his people. Very hilarious episode with strong points that were made.    

  TheLastMagister, although you mean well it's inappropriate for you to speak of such points about the black community.  The same as it would be for me, an African-American, to point out the flaws of the white community.  I'm not part of the white community, you're not a part of the black community.  Simply put, it's a racial issue that should strictly be discussed among blacks.    

  But I'm actually curious about your black friends you mentioned, though.  I have white friends.  An intelligent few with their own views on politics, religion and race.  And they understand not to speak too much on a race issue concerning blacks like you have.  They understand it's not their place.

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 Lol, I wouldn't mind criticism of the white race. Oh wait, we get it all the time from everyone else, so we aren't allowed to add our own to others?

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Enough of the "we", your indicating too much of a mob mentality.  

And there are enough minority jokes to move a mountain so enough of this "unfair" crap.    

And MLK fought for equality among peoples. He would not be angry with African-Americans for doing what they please and not conforming to attitudes around them. He advocated responsible choice. And respect for that choice.

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So you consider committing violent crimes on a national scale responsible choice? Since when does equality mean that we must tolerate everything minorities do but at the same time be ashamed of who we are as whites?

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First of all, I referring to African-American culture as the responsible choice.

Crime has nothing to do with responsible choice and has nothing to do with race. Crime is universal and MLK advocated equality, especially in prosecution, for everyone. Crime, itself, however, has nothing to do with MLK's dream, so stop trying to misrepresent what he stood for.

And equality means you must treat everyone equally. If that means that a judge must evaluate and that a lawyer must prove his case regardless of ethnic background, then yes, that is equality. I'm sorry if you think there is a problem with the fairness attributed by our peoples.

And no one is ashamed to be white. Take your white supremacy and white guilt shit somewhere else. People are neither here nor there about being labeled as white and most people are more intertwined with being human.

And whites commit about the same crime as blacks - this includes violent crime. The only portion of the statistic that skyrockets for Blacks is the homocide portion and that is easily attributable to the prevalence of gangs and drugs within the black community.
Blacks kill more blacks than they do whites. And gun crime is the culprit. The group most at risk is the 18-25  young African-American men involved in high risk behaviour (selling drugs, etc).

Post edited at 9:57 pm on Aug. 14, 2008 by Takinam

And one last little thing. If the races are supposed to be equal now, as in opportunity and such, why is it that we still have affirmative action? Why is it necessary to award extra points on college applications for minorities, when we are equal? Where is the fairness in having to score significantly higher than a black student to gain that same spot in a competitive school?


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First of all, i am not a white supremacist. I would personally shake the hand of every successful African American who live an honest life.

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Quote: from SLynch89 at 9:37 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from Takinam at 9:28 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:16 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from insurgent at 9:04 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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There was an episode on The Boondocks titled Return of the King. In which Martin Luther King Jr. awakes from a 32 year coma into present day America. Interestingly enough, throughout the entire episode MLK Jr. seems to struggle with a complete disgust he has with the wild, ignorant behavior and inane accomplishments (like the creation of BET) of his people. Very hilarious episode with strong points that were made.

TheLastMagister, although you mean well it's inappropriate for you to speak of such points about the black community. The same as it would be for me, an African-American, to point out the flaws of the white community. I'm not part of the white community, you're not a part of the black community. Simply put, it's a racial issue that should strictly be discussed among blacks.

But I'm actually curious about your black friends you mentioned, though. I have white friends. An intelligent few with their own views on politics, religion and race. And they understand not to speak too much on a race issue concerning blacks like you have. They understand it's not their place.

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Lol, I wouldn't mind criticism of the white race. Oh wait, we get it all the time from everyone else, so we aren't allowed to add our own to others?

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Enough of the "we", your indicating too much of a mob mentality.

And there are enough minority jokes to move a mountain so enough of this "unfair" crap.

And MLK fought for equality among peoples. He would not be angry with African-Americans for doing what they please and not conforming to attitudes around them. He advocated responsible choice. And respect for that choice.

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So you consider committing violent crimes on a national scale responsible choice? Since when does equality mean that we must tolerate everything minorities do but at the same time be ashamed of who we are as whites?

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First of all, I referring to African-American culture as the responsible choice.

Crime has nothing to do with responsible choice and has nothing to do with race. Crime is universal and MLK advocated equality, especially in prosecution, for everyone. Crime, itself, however, has nothing to do with MLK's dream, so stop trying to misrepresent what he stood for.

And equality means you must treat everyone equally. If that means that a judge must evaluate and that a lawyer must prove his case regardless of ethnic background, then yes, that is equality. I'm sorry if you think there is a problem with the fairness attributed by our peoples.

And no one is ashamed to be white. Take your white supremacy and white guilt shit somewhere else. People are neither here nor there about being labeled as white and most people are more intertwined with being human.

And whites commit about the same crime as blacks - this includes violent crime. The only portion of the statistic that skyrockets for Blacks is the homocide portion and that is easily attributable to the prevalence of gangs and drugs within the black community.
Blacks kill more blacks than they do whites. And gun crime is the culprit. The group most at risk is the 18-25 young African-American men involved in high risk behaviour (selling drugs, etc).

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I would like to point out that there are also studies which show that while both have an about equal crime rate, suicide is still technically a crime and while the white population tends to lean towards suicidal, the black population has more violent crimes towards others. Also, it is no longer a responsible choice if it involves blacks killing each other is it? Besides, none of this has to do with the fact that today's Black society is not what MLK was shooting for, because the behavior exhibited in popular culture today is degrading to the black community.

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First of all, i am not a white supremacist. I would personally shake the hand of every successful African American who live an honest life. It is the subculture of violence, sex, and drugs that are so overly represented by mainstream media that i have a problem with (that includes people of all colors who partake, not just blacks). This brings up the question of why gang activity and drug use is so prelevant in the black community. Part of it has to do with poverty (which is the source of a large percentage of crime), but not all of it can be because of that.  

And one last little thing. If the races are supposed to be equal now, as in opportunity and such, why is it that we still have affirmative action? Why is it necessary to award extra points on college applications for minorities, when we are equal? Where is the fairness in having to score significantly higher than a black student to gain that same spot in a competitive school?  

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I never said you were a white supremacist. I just said to take things to reference to that kind of idealism elsewhere.  

And we cannot assume that the playing field is equal for minorities, regardless of how hopeful we may be. Affirmative action is there to level the uneven playing field for minorities. Allowing them, usually in the absence of the nominal wealth and previelege of their majority, to have a slice of the pie.

If Affirmative action didn't exist...those with access to better quality of life would generally make up higher institutions.

Poverty is a major reason for drugs. There may be other reasons that are interrelated with poverty.

Post edited at 6:13 am on Aug. 15, 2008 by Takinam

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Quote: from Takinam at 9:52 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from SLynch89 at 9:37 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from Takinam at 9:28 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 9:16 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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Quote: from insurgent at 9:04 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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There was an episode on The Boondocks titled Return of the King.  In which Martin Luther King Jr. awakes from a 32 year coma into present day America.  Interestingly enough, throughout the entire episode MLK Jr. seems to struggle with a complete disgust he has with the wild, ignorant behavior and inane accomplishments (like the creation of BET) of his people. Very hilarious episode with strong points that were made.      

   TheLastMagister, although you mean well it's inappropriate for you to speak of such points about the black community.  The same as it would be for me, an African-American, to point out the flaws of the white community.  I'm not part of the white community, you're not a part of the black community.  Simply put, it's a racial issue that should strictly be discussed among blacks.      

   But I'm actually curious about your black friends you mentioned, though.  I have white friends.  An intelligent few with their own views on politics, religion and race.  And they understand not to speak too much on a race issue concerning blacks like you have.  They understand it's not their place.

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  Lol, I wouldn't mind criticism of the white race. Oh wait, we get it all the time from everyone else, so we aren't allowed to add our own to others?

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 Enough of the "we", your indicating too much of a mob mentality.    

 And there are enough minority jokes to move a mountain so enough of this "unfair" crap.      

 And MLK fought for equality among peoples. He would not be angry with African-Americans for doing what they please and not conforming to attitudes around them. He advocated responsible choice. And respect for that choice.

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 So you consider committing violent crimes on a national scale responsible choice? Since when does equality mean that we must tolerate everything minorities do but at the same time be ashamed of who we are as whites?

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 First of all, I referring to African-American culture as the responsible choice.  

 Crime has nothing to do with responsible choice and has nothing to do with race. Crime is universal and MLK advocated equality, especially in prosecution, for everyone. Crime, itself, however, has nothing to do with MLK's dream, so stop trying to misrepresent what he stood for.  

 And equality means you must treat everyone equally. If that means that a judge must evaluate and that a lawyer must prove his case regardless of ethnic background, then yes, that is equality. I'm sorry if you think there is a problem with the fairness attributed by our peoples.  

 And no one is ashamed to be white. Take your white supremacy and white guilt shit somewhere else. People are neither here nor there about being labeled as white and most people are more intertwined with being human.  

 And whites commit about the same crime as blacks - this includes violent crime. The only portion of the statistic that skyrockets for Blacks is the homocide portion and that is easily attributable to the prevalence of gangs and drugs within the black community.  
 Blacks kill more blacks than they do whites. And gun crime is the culprit. The group most at risk is the 18-25  young African-American men involved in high risk behaviour (selling drugs, etc).  

 

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I would like to point out that there are also studies which show that while both have an about equal crime rate, suicide is still technically a crime and while the white population tends to lean towards suicidal, the black population has more violent crimes towards others. Also, it is no longer a responsible choice if it involves blacks killing each other is it? Besides, none of this has to do with the fact that today's Black society is not what MLK was shooting for, because the behavior exhibited in popular culture today is degrading to the black community.

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I don't believe as such but violent crime involves rape and thievery. As I've said before, gang and drugs are less of an issue for US whites. I don't remember if the federal statistics state suicide as homocide..but even so..minorities have a higher rate of suicide anyway.

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Quote: from insurgent at 9:04 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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There was an episode on The Boondocks titled Return of the King.  In which Martin Luther King Jr. awakes from a 32 year coma into present day America.  Interestingly enough, throughout the entire episode MLK Jr. seems to struggle with a complete disgust he has with the wild, ignorant behavior and inane accomplishments (like the creation of BET) of his people. Very hilarious episode with strong points that were made.  

 TheLastMagister, although you mean well it's inappropriate for you to speak of such points about the black community.  The same as it would be for me, an African-American, to point out the flaws of the white community.  I'm not part of the white community, you're not a part of the black community.  Simply put, it's a racial issue that should strictly be discussed among blacks.  

 But I'm actually curious about your black friends you mentioned, though.  I have white friends.  An intelligent few with their own views on politics, religion and race.  And they understand not to speak too much on a race issue concerning blacks like you have.  They understand it's not their place.

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Lol, I wouldn't mind criticism of the white race. Oh wait, we get it all the time from everyone else, so we aren't allowed to add our own to others?

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Any criticism of whites you guys generally bitch and moan, just like some of the black people are bitching and moaning in this post. You all bitch and moan so don't act like you didn't see it coming when a bunch of white kids on LW decided to host today's episode of "Lets Scold the Niggers". Dude...

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Quote: from SLynch89 at 6:31 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

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I believe he is right on. This new rap and gangster culture is degrading the black community. How can you possibly be proud to be black these days when all you see are music videos made by blacks about breaking the law, sex, drugs, violence, ect.? How would MLK feel when he sees what his dream has become?

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... you really don't know anything about rap music, do you?

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they don't listen to it they just assume. when a lot of music that is predominately listened to by whites talk about the exact same subjects only in a different style.

prostitutes, booty, drugs, violence, yar yar yar it's all the same but it's easier to blame something they are not associated with.

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That mostly ac cure to the Black Americans, the other black people who ain't black American I see they are being more successful more and more everyday, all the bad stereos types , and bad things we hear of the black community thats going on , its all the African American fault not the other black cultures cause they just fine and living their successful life (well most)[

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no. try again

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Quote: from babygurl 2008 at 11:22 am on Aug. 15, 2008

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That mostly ac cure to the Black Americans, the other black people who ain't black American I see they are being more successful more and more everyday, all the bad stereos types , and bad things we hear of the black community thats going on , its all the African American fault not the other black cultures cause they just fine and living their successful life (well most)[

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no. try again

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WHY?

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